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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2000 2:44 pm     Reply with quote
Ah, here's my pathetic attempt. First time I've used photo reference digitally.

Took about an hour and a half. I should have started with a basic shape (a sketch, perhaps). Instead I just sorta blocked out some colors, without paying attention to real form. It was only after I was almost done that I started really looking at structure. Ah well, anyways.


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2000 2:52 pm     Reply with quote
Woah! You are all very talented!

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2000 2:59 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, there is a lot of great stuff here. I really wasn't expecting to start something like this.

This is actually really good, we all have our first attempts(well not everyone), with the tutorials coming soon, we'll all have something to compare the "right" way to do this, vs. our own way of doing things. Reality should set in at that point.

Very inspiring...
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2000 6:59 pm     Reply with quote
I hated the crapy sketch I started with but I was in a hurry to try out some techniques and see how they turned out so this guy only vaguely resembles the picture. I've never been good with paints (except for painting miniatures) so it will be intersting to see the 'before' and 'after' effect of this tutorial. Lord knows I need all the help I can get.



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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2000 11:18 pm     Reply with quote
I just installed painter to see how it works so here is what i found :

(i was under painter5, i am not sure this will work with all versions, maybe we should try with a small script test)

to see the script :
-windows/show object
-then click to the script icone (under the word script)

there is some script included with the soft, you can try mona lisa or other fun stuff...

to release script to easiest way i found :
in the directory of painter there is a file called painter.ssd, you can delete it (it will just reset the script recorded

this file is a text file that you can compress (the original one is about 5mb and 2mb zipped)

Voila! that's all

dines. (who can wait to see a fred script)
http://www.nexen.net/koubis


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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2000 11:22 pm     Reply with quote
oh yes, i forget a thing

It's best to start recording the script from the beginning (i mean before choosing a file/new and then chosing the size etc...)


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http://www.nexen.net/koubis
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2000 11:39 pm     Reply with quote
finally, exporting a script can be done at
script/playback script

it's a pure text file and looks like that :

stroke_start
pnt x 9.43 y 154.78 time 3462 prs 0.00
pnt x 6.78 y 155.80 time 3463 prs 0.06
pnt x 6.73 y 157.17 time 3466 prs 0.20
pnt x 10.26 y 157.79 time 3468 prs 0.33
...

it say where the stroke start, etc which tool was used and, with the time setting, it create a kind of replay...

i posted a test script (2kb zipped) that you can try here : (to check the compatibility)
http://www.nexen.net/koubis/misc/painterscript-dines_test.zip


dines.


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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 12:03 am     Reply with quote
Ok, everybody else seems to be posting....
here it goes:

step1:



Step2:


step3:


step4:


-Micke

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http://www.katode.org/noguchi/
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 1:51 am     Reply with quote
I have a picture too, but my homepage is down, so I can't post it. And yeah, I am too lazy to open a geocities account.
If someone could help me out, that would be awesome.
thanks
dP
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 2:08 am     Reply with quote
Ok, nevermind, I used geocities.
This took about 45 minutes, I had some problems with getting a there-is-no-tommorow expression in the eyes..... =)


dP

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 2:13 am     Reply with quote
whow.. terrific work.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 3:53 am     Reply with quote
nice one dP! it's great to see the same subject in different syles..

and guess what? i made yet another one
pixeled in 200x150 this time. took about 2� - 3 hours:

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 4:16 am     Reply with quote
Hehe, kicking Fragamite. So, ppl still pixel here and there.
I dropped pixeling long time ago, hope I never have to do it again =)))
anyways, really nice one
dP

Nex-thanks
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 9:43 am     Reply with quote


Well, here's a quick try from me. I guess i did a lot of stupid things through the prosess and I found it also very hard to create the eye expression. Oh well..I look really forward to the lecture start, I'm sure I will learn alot from it.





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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 12:28 pm     Reply with quote
Stunning... as always.

/me loves those Innerloopers
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 12:40 pm     Reply with quote
Since your pic is too good for 45 min, I though you were cheating but later i realize that it wasn't. Thats it, no hard feeling ok?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 12:44 pm     Reply with quote
I didn't say I used 45 minutes. I used a little over 2 hours. No hard feelings

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 12:56 pm     Reply with quote
ole how did you get those porprtions so exact, especially when working in 1280x960. Not to mention using a mouse. They are almost identical when side by side. I don't really want to start a flame war but I am a little curious (so shoot me). You either got one really REALLY steady and paitent hand or you painted over it, at least until you got the porportions.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 1:05 pm     Reply with quote
I kept the original photo in its own layer and turned it on and off once in a while to check it I was doing it right. Maybe it looks too much like the original, but I did this only to learn to paint at a large res. I tried to get the outlines correct. This isn't for a contest or commercial use, it was for my personal learning only.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 6:19 pm     Reply with quote
See Ole, i'm not the only one.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 7:38 pm     Reply with quote
Dammmmn DerPunkt! The eyes in yours are intense... really deep in the skull. They are the most soulful of the bunch so far. Is it the white highlight dots in the eye? The purply tone as the wrinkles of the eylid recess into the socket?

I like all of em as they each capture several aspects of the expression and of course, the more technically obvious lighting and details.

It's fun scrolling fast through this topic to see how the choices of color are all so similar (even synj's with the choice "rebel" colors

Visual Feast.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 11:28 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 11:47 pm     Reply with quote
Nice!

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2000 11:52 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2000 2:36 am     Reply with quote

Ole, to be honest, to draw the image with the original as underlayer is really a waste. I believe the only way you can learn anything from this would be to find the colors yourself without picking them from the photo, so that you with your own eyes can see where it's more green, blue, pink etc...and try to analyze why . And offcourse draw the face by yourself without using the photo for anything else than to look at.
And size is no exscuse, I did mine in 3000*3500...
But, this is not something you should try to show off with, but to learn.

Sorry, I'm not the one that should tell this, but it is a fact. But, I guess/hope that is much of what we will learn when spooge will start the lecture.


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2000 10:52 am     Reply with quote
Here is my contribution, I know it's a little late, but I was kind of busy. It took me 45 minutes to complete, and I'm sorry but I didn't keep a progression, next time, here it is!!!!


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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2000 1:53 pm     Reply with quote
joachim: I get your point. I'll try to draw something without any reference images next time.
When I get a reference I tend to try to get it to look as much like the original as possible, and I now realize that this is frowned upon by you guys.
I now know I shouldn't have submitted this image, and I'll delete it right away.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2000 2:49 pm     Reply with quote
I got so inspired by seeing all these entries that I had to do another one. This time around I tried to get the sketch down, so I wouldn't have to change that much while painting. So I did a 10 minute sketch in my sketchbook and colored right over it.

Here's the finished result, comments are greatly appreciated:



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2000 11:32 pm     Reply with quote
Here's my fat version of the thin old man. Comment are greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2000 5:36 am     Reply with quote
Everyone seems to be having so much fun, I finally broke down and thought I'd give it a shot:

aprox 40 minutes...



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