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tanis member
Member # Joined: 26 Oct 1999 Posts: 207 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2000 2:56 pm |
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I'm posting the following image hoping someone can help me showing me how to correctly place a light in the scene and shade the figure. Do wathever you want with the pic, just let me see what I should do on this piece. Thanks!
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Valerio Santinelli a.k.a. TANiS
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synj member
Member # Joined: 02 Apr 2000 Posts: 1483 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2000 3:43 pm |
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This is as serious as my help gets. Behold weewee man.
I hope I helped enlighten you in the slightest possible way or more. By the way, I don't really have a good explanation for lighting, i've just practiced it too many times.
-synj www.synj.net
Ridiculously good stuff.
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Frost member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 2662 Location: Montr�al, Canada
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2000 4:56 pm |
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I'd offer some words, but I know there are people who have more experience than I on the subject (or any other with regards to art) -- I'll let them speak. =] |
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zapman member
Member # Joined: 26 Feb 2000 Posts: 354 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2000 5:41 pm |
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Hows this help?
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tanis member
Member # Joined: 26 Oct 1999 Posts: 207 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2000 10:14 am |
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synj: heh! I forgot to paint his pants Well.. zapman added them
Apart this, I see you're using a strong shadow in your sketch.. maybe this is one of the point I usually pass on by.. I rarely use strong shadows. I think I'l try to imagine to have a strong light in the scene and drop a heavy shadow on the background. I'll see what comes out. Hmm.. let's say I choose a greenish light.. what colour should the skin get where it's lit ? I saw somewhere that shadows made by colored lights usually get te complimentary color of the light itself. Is that true ?
zapman: it's surely helping, but there's something wrong with that yellow/greenish halo effect on his right leg (viewer's left). Shouldn't it be totally different ? Maybe a sort of reflection on the skin ? I don't know..
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sfr member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 1999 Posts: 390 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2000 10:50 am |
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Frost, so you'd like to say something but you can't because there's someone who knows more? With that kind of autocensorship, who would be left to be "allowed" to talk here - Spooge, Loki, Mozeman, Micke, Joachim and a few other people...?
Please don't be offended, I'm just trying to suggest that your input and help could be valuable too, especially if the gurus don't happen to have time to help this guy out
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tanis member
Member # Joined: 26 Oct 1999 Posts: 207 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2000 10:59 am |
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Thanks for your words Saffron. Maybe you can "move the waters" in here. It's happening quite often lately.. people usually give advices after people like Spooge goes on for first.
I'm actually willing to learn from everybody on this forum since I'm so lame at drawing/painting and I can surely learn from every single guy on board.
Frost: Please tell me whatever you think would help me out. I've seen some of your works and I can assure you that you can speak in here without any risk (at least I won't scream at you saying you're telling me a bunch of stupid things! )
Come on guys! Hit me hard with some serious stuff!
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Valerio Santinelli a.k.a. TANiS
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Frost member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 2662 Location: Montr�al, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2000 3:31 pm |
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Saffron: No offense taken. =) But it's not necessarily right to give pointers when you have trouble applying the techniques yourself. Anyway. I'll just keep low for a while and do my own stuff on my side -- I need the time off I guess.
cheers.
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tanis member
Member # Joined: 26 Oct 1999 Posts: 207 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 2:03 am |
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Oh well.. so Frost is out.. no one else is gonna give some hints here ?
hmm.. at least some reference books to learn from or something.
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Valerio Santinelli a.k.a. TANiS
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Zor member
Member # Joined: 13 Apr 2000 Posts: 198 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 4:13 am |
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Tannis..a wise old painter (one of my favorites) once said to me.. "for Life is nothing but reference for me now" and I took this onbord..(many moons ago) its all u need...the most powerfull book in the world is your own mind, so many people tend to forget this and still revert ill effected light sorces from pictures of other artists.... - anways., all im trying to say is try and look at objects or people from an artistic point of view, see how the light soruce is reflected and where its darkend. then apply it to your own work...
Once u practice this, then as synj quite rightly said.. it will become too natural to explain.
Hope this helps...
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tanis member
Member # Joined: 26 Oct 1999 Posts: 207 Location: Bergamo, Italy
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 9:55 am |
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Thanks Zor. You're right about studying what's around me. I should think about it more often. But there are some rules that I think should be learnt expecially when someone starts working without any reference, for example on fantasy characters or monsters. It's hard to get the right shadow color gradation for a blue skin hit by an orange light if you don't know some more "technical" stuff (at least for me).
So that's why I'm also looking for books or anything with some colour theory to know all those things that would hardly be learnt by life drawing itself.
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29A member
Member # Joined: 08 May 2000 Posts: 110 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 11:16 pm |
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Hows this?
Note: It's is overdone as hell... IE, the highlights/shadoes are lighter/darker than they should be... ad the shadow is incorrect, but I think you'd get my idea..
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mOO member
Member # Joined: 25 Oct 1999 Posts: 84 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2000 11:27 pm |
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Complimentary shadow color is really an optical illusion but ive only really noticed it on white surfaces. If you have a lamp in your room try reflecting the light off something with color on to your wall then put your hand in front of the reflected light. You can see it pretty clearly then. Of course i could be wrong too. ;p
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