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Luvboat
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 8:49 am     Reply with quote
Okay, i've been working on this pic for the last hour or two and I can't figure out whats wrong with it. It looks too...bland. boring. void of colors maybe? the fact that it looks so boring to me is going to make it extremely hard to finish, blahh. maybe someone can tell me wtf is wrong w/ it?



any help would be appreciated, thanks
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Chapel
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 8:51 am     Reply with quote
Go to basics. Draw a basic shape for the head and draw a center line down your face and look at it again. That should help.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 9:04 am     Reply with quote
The face looks quite distorted.. (mouth, nose)I guess to draw a basic head shape over it would really help you get it fixed.



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 9:11 am     Reply with quote
I agree with the guys (no butt kissing though ) but I think you know the "errors" already by yourself...(hmm correct English?)
Keep goin'...

Reminds me of Dolf Lundgren
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 9:40 am     Reply with quote
Well look at the nose. It doesn't line up with the mouth. It goes at more of an angle inside of straight forward. The eyes are almost okay... They go straight across instead of more of the slant with the face, and are a little too small for the face. So go ahead and do the basic head shape outline and it will show you where things need to be and about how big.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 10:45 am     Reply with quote
good start, I would suggest that you work with the whole face first instead of trying to put the details in first. Look at the proportions of the face, use your own face as a reference. Try shading the entire head first, as if it where a wig makers model (sargent.)
It looks as if you started on the right and then worked your way across the image, this can lead to alot of mistakes in proportions and lighting.
A very good tip, rotate your image upside down, or flip it. You will start to see things you never noticed before.
you got a good start though, don't get discouraged, keep at it. If youhave to, start over, you'll learn more and more each time.
good luck.

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 12:29 pm     Reply with quote
The paint is in the way of seeing what is wrong, since the pencils can indicate how you approached the subject.

In this case, my guess would be lack of structure. While there is some room for exageration and modification of basic human proportions, you have to know the rules before you can break them.

First, I'd do the whole head and not just the face, even if you decide to cut the rest out of the frame to focus on the face.

Second, any beginner's art book will show you the proportions of the face. The head is 5 eye widths wide, the eyes fall half-way down the head, etc.

Start with a basic shape for the head, then work in details. Start big and work your way down. And keep it rough. Make sure the basic structure is right before you add the details, and make sure the drawing is right before you proceed to painting it.

Coloring wise, I'm only qualified to point our the obvious - you seem to be using only two colors, skin tone and a darker shade of skin tone.

Check out this self-portrait of Frezetta. Bold use of colors.



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 1:39 pm     Reply with quote
Small eyes,
Moth to the right more
Ear lines up with eyes to nose.
tip of nose lines up to inner eye ares.
heres a image if it helps any:


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 2:31 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks guys, I've learned tons from reading your replies.

Oh and mozeman: that self portrait is amazing
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