[zapman]

I been giving out advice all the time, I need some help now
take a look at this image
and tell me whats wrong and what u like!?

I need all the feedback i can get



Thanks!


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[zapman]

Need help with the water the most as u can see..
any tips?

[jasonN]

Hey Zapman,
I think your pic is pretty cool. I especially like the concept. The whole cold winters night thing is cool.
The water does need work, but I have no idea how to fix that.
I think you just need to fix the ppl kissing. The girls arm looks a little flat and the guys face and arms need to be more defined. But the wool texture is da bomb
Finally, just work on sharpening some parts up because it's a little blurry.
Just keep working at it and it should be great!


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[zapman]

Ok Fixed up the Face!
added more work on the boat and water...
now what needs fixing?

[[Shizo]]

Canal line a bit too straight (if thats a canal border at the bg)
Also birds too fat :)

Smoothen clouds a bit (ther's a bad pattern on the edges)

The boat where the guy stands, Its a bit confusing. You should paint below the guy so you can see that part under him is still a boat

cheerbumz, i kis the bottle!

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[Mr Weasel]

Hey there, Zapman ! Nice work you got there. Is the 'Emperor Palpatine' guy back there suppose to be a monster ? If not, I think you need to fix his face a lil' bit. His right cheek looks swollen. His hands looks more like claws to me. It's too big, man. Compare it to his body.
I think the boat's texture needs to be sharpened out, it looks blurry.
Is that two bats I see in the sky ? If it is, it looks more like two tick marks to me. I think you need to detail it out a little in the wing parts.
Have you ever stared at the moon, Zap ? With a very big full moon like that you will be able to see the craters and 'seas'. It's highly recommended that you add those things to enhance the realism of the moon.
Is the scene at night ? It looks too bright. You need too darken the blue sky a bit. Wait, the clouds doesn't seem right. You need to add small details like more lumps. Also, your clouds are too bright for a night scene and its shading and hilites are quite odd. You see, in a night scene, the only light source that emmitts light is ONLY the full moon. In your picture, the clouds seem to accept strong lighting from BELOW the clouds. It's suppose to accept light from the mighty full moon only, therefore you need to brighten the side of the moon that's facing the full moon and darken the other sides.
Well that's about it Zap fren. Sorry for the critiques, it's too harsh isn't it ? BTW, did you get what I was trying to explain above ?

[Tinusch]

From a technical standpoint, I think the pic is really good. But overall, the composition is just too "busy". It's too confusing. There's no one focal point; nothing to catch your eye. The parts that should stand out the most sort of blend in, such as the moon and the couple. The composition just needs some strengthening and defining. Maybe some strong white lighting coming from the moon and reflecting on the couple would help.

[micke]

Maybe you need more depth in it.
Also the clouds looks weird.

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[zapman]

Ok cool! thanks for all the feed back, I uploaded the newer image now...Added more Detail on wood, Spotlight, Trees, Castel, People in the Back (in side the grass/trees) with red eyes 1 is looking over the right side on top of the trees. Moon Glow was added, Well hows it look now?

Thanks again


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[Mr Weasel]

Now you're rockin' Zapman !
But there's a lil' sumthin' that needs to be worked out again. It's the woman's face. It looks kinda 'dirty'. Maybe you could just clean it out a bit and I think her hair looks like it hasn't been cleaned up for years (out of shampoo maybe ?), it looks kinda dull. Maybe it's because of the hilite. Try using a lighter color or whatever for the hair hilites instead of brownish-grey. Believe me Zap, the hair looks dull colored.

[blup]

Everything looks really "dirty", go easy on using black to colour and shade things. And, um, the back wall seems to be showing through the lady's head. Oh yeah, the boat in perspective seems to be whack too.

But heck, I like the mood and the theme of the pic. Nifty..

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[Nex]

Reminds me of the story with Orpheus and Eurydike from the Greek legends.. cool!

[Lajun]

Very nice zapman


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[Darkmoon]

woo, i havent posted in awhile... need to... your the lucky guy

i think you should fish the chicks face, tilt it more, looks at some ref pics, it looks like she has half a face....

make the shading more cleaner... work on the bushes cause i wanna see those little guys hiding there a bit better, put refections from the water on the guys cloak, and make then brighter on the boat cause thats a huge moon

fix the guys hand *the rower guy* over all, make the people brighter and is that blue sky? i thought it was night... make that darker....


do i like win a prize for being the only one to notice the lil guys in the bushes? or did you just add those....





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[zapman]

Ok thanks all!!!!!

Ok well I am geting Close and CLoser to geting this image done..
I took ALL your Advice and has changed the Image now (may need to Refresh or Reload)

Skys have been Given High Lights around them Because its night time... BLUE now now Dark Blue

Moon was too big, So now its smaller look nicer?

So now what?


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[zapman]

Here is the sketch i started from, done in PS.