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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2000 1:13 pm     Reply with quote
EDITED: Due to excess bandwidth usage I'm taking the file down. It should be put on another server soon.

It's 5.5 megs or so, a little over three minutes in lenght. A trailer for a film Congregation Films has been working on longer than I care to remember. Most of the credit goes to a CF member, Kaj Syrj�nen, since he's the one who composed the music, did the editing, the combustion and such effects and so on. I just did the voiceover and some 'matte painting' of sorts. Plus the lighting effects the gun flash makes when I shoot in the corridor.

It's in finnish, so don't expect to understand the speech. Just enjoy the visuals, if you can.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2000 1:40 pm     Reply with quote
i don't see myself in the credits, not even for the visually and artistically extremely challenging camera work i did down there in the basement, before hitler's resurrection by satan from the biowaste bin. bitches! my own film group has betrayed me!

/me cries



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2000 2:57 pm     Reply with quote
Thats quite good. What exactly were the matte paintings and where?

All in all, I'd say that wasn't half bad. I'd like it more if it had some of those cool camera/slo-mo effects that the Matrix had Just kidding.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2000 6:05 pm     Reply with quote
kickass! i hope you nuke Hitler at the end? ehheheh

Nice shootings too.. the guy with pistol looks upset!
But the guy with AK47 dies way too many times for one movie!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2000 6:29 pm     Reply with quote
heheh i LIKE the ak47 guy dying over and over. i don't know if that was meant to be humorous but i think that was one of my favorite parts. especially when he's running right to left and just kinda flies in the air

*applauds*
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2000 9:27 pm     Reply with quote
shizo: well how would you do a army with only one man?



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 1:06 am     Reply with quote
Damn, this shit is fun. I always thought of you a fascist bastard Anyway, where did you get those guns, and who were you exactly in the clip... I saw two guys that really looked alike. Cool stuff!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 1:31 am     Reply with quote
Im doing a digital movie
for my MAJOR artwork this year

i will post bits and pieces
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 5:08 am     Reply with quote
Matte paintings? Well, in the scene where the guard tower explodes, I edited the BG. It was a 3d model built on top of an edited still of the 'tower', and I took out the top part of the wooden cabing in Photoshop and reconstructed the forest in the background.I also added the lighting effects to my face and hand in the scene where I shoot off a bit in the corridor. (So to answer another question, that was me) In addition to that, I also painted out a comic strip we'd accidentally left on the wall in the bit where Hitler speaks raher vigorously.

None of the guns are real. They're just your average plastic toy guns that go 'rattattat' when you pull the trigger. Which is why we didn't pull the triggers. The muzzle flashes were added later in Lightwave by Kaj.

Anyway, keep in mind we are total amateurs at this... It's the first of our movies with CGI, and the equipment used isn't exactly top-of-the line... (All video is captured via a Hauppauge TV tuner card, and output through my video adapters TV-output...)


Oh,Faust, I never noticed you weren't in the credits... We also forgot Riikka, so...
Oh well, it's only a trailer.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 5:13 am     Reply with quote
it kind of bugs me there's someone (riikka) in the group that i've not even met yet.....




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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 5:27 am     Reply with quote
She's not in the group per se. She's more of a guest star.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 6:26 am     Reply with quote
yeah, and i've been there from the very beginning, gave my soul, my heart, my sanity to it (which shows), blablabla, and i get left out of the credits. granted, i didn't take that much part in 'stein anyway. but still.



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 12:11 pm     Reply with quote
ya! So before anyone even thinks of posting a clip here, make sure it's in finnish!

I did download the vodeo, it looked good... Somewhat more original than ours, but then we do tend to conciously play with clich�s a lot. It's fun.

The full film will, when it gets finished some day, be around half an hour long. The editing is just slow as hell with our resources.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 2:35 pm     Reply with quote
That kicks ass Affected!

What type of video editing software did you use??

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 2:51 pm     Reply with quote
I was impressed. I have friends who do digital video for a profession so I get to see all the behind-the-scenes stuff. A couple of good things..and a couple of not so good things. I really liked the muzzle flashes that were added as well as the detonation at the end of the tower. Bravo! As well as some of the more dynamic camera angles (bathroom stall scene and guy in gasmask)
Now for the not-so-good stuff. And I'm saying this not knowing if you have the capability to remedy this stuff. First and foremost was the lighting. The indoor scenes mostly..you can tell the lighting is a 60 watt bulb and it kind of casts a washed out yellow light across everything. Mess around with diffusing some spot lights through sheets. It gives a great ambient lighting without being too harsh. Secondly was the camera itself being wobbly. It isn't too hard to make a steady-cam that allows the cameraman to even run alongside the actors without screwing the video. I realize you guys have spent oodles of time on this project, and once again, bravo! I'm impressed!

One question though...are you going to pimp out Hitler in a robotic suit like the end of Wolfenstein did? hehehehe
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 9:30 pm     Reply with quote
end/hitler is something.... something different.

the ending is the craziest entertainment/comedy explosion ever

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 9:58 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, Faust... you went and developed a sense of humour while I was gone.

Can't seem to view the film on this system. I'll try it tommorow at work. Sounds pretty cool, from the comments so far.

-shaithis
(still trying to remember what it was like to actually know how to draw)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 11:06 pm     Reply with quote
cool as a moustache!

I had finish in school for 8years but I still can't understand half of what you're saying.. oh well, I failed some of the tests anyway

you somehow managed to make it pretty professional looking, nice photography and editing.. love the bit where you zoom and rotate towards a guy with a gasmask who shouts someting evil. how did you do that?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 11:27 pm     Reply with quote
Interesting! I can believe you've been working on this for quite a while... (How long is the complete film?) Your voice acting, is, ah, err, suitable

Video is fun. If someone cares, here's a 2-minute clip I did last month:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/saffron/junk/koko-384.mov

It's 6 megs, so don't bother downloading it on modem or ISDN as it's not worth it. I made it all in two days and that shows... (I'm pretty sure someone will recognize what it's made for, others will have to wonder what the heck this is supposed to be )

Oh, and it's in Finnish too. I hereby declare Finnish the de facto official language of sijun.com forum videos.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2000 11:34 pm     Reply with quote
Oh, I forgot to say that if you watch my clip, you might want to crank up your monitor brightness quite a bit since it's made for TV gamma... (you're supposed to barely see her face when she takes the hood off)

And I was in such a rush with the video that I completely forgot to credit the music. But better late than never: the song is "Carpet Muncher" by mu-ziq.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2000 1:35 am     Reply with quote
always had one.

although i will leave comments unsaid regarding your gsi trip.....

worry not, shai, i'm still a caustic bitch, i just try to behave on this forum.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2000 5:55 am     Reply with quote
The editing (Which was not my doing) was done in After Effects.

Saltydog:

Thanks for the input! The thing is, our budgets are.. Well, we don't exactly have budgets. Basically we make movies with whatever we can find lying around. (When Ville got the camera, that was the biggest investment ever made in conjunction with our group. Or actually that started the group up.)


We had a 1000 KW halogen lamp (Got it for free, of course), but the bulb burned out. Need to get a new one. It's a bit extreme anyway. The bedsheet idea is interesting, we'll have to try that. And maybe look into making a steadycam. (Well, definitely.)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2000 6:37 am     Reply with quote
Uh-oh... I'm getting e-mail from Redrival saying I've exceeded the maximum bandwidth usage of 4 gigabytes per month. They say I've used up 17,5 GB.. I'm going to take the file down. Hopefully Faust will be able to upload it to his server.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2000 7:15 am     Reply with quote
yes master



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2000 7:40 am     Reply with quote
http://www.faustgfx.com/cf/cf_wolfenstein_trailer.mov

somebody see if the file's alive..



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2000 9:32 am     Reply with quote
It works.

That's really cool, btw. The muzzle flashes are great, for the most part (though there's a short section near the end where it looks like the guy's reloading, yet his gun's still flashing)

The explosion is terrific.

Nice job.

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