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zapman · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 7:05 pm

I was asked to do a Prity Butter fly image for some money, and its one of Boris Artwork, A girl in teh water Background is a waterfall, with a Deer nest the girl, and Evil guys in teh background..

I added some butter flys and wings on/around the girl, and took out some things, and croped it. I am wornging if this is OK? and how do I give Cridit to BORIS on my image? do i put
"photo reference: Boris YEAR Airbrushed by: My name YEAR."

ZAPmAn

[This message has been edited by zapman (edited April 04, 2000).]

Loki · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 7:19 pm

you're kidding, right???

Tinusch · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 7:22 pm

If all you're doing is adding a few things to someone else's artwork, then I wouldn't call it a "photo reference". I'd give Boris full credit, with a minor reference to the additions made by you. Maybe something like "By Boris (I forget what his last name is... V something...). Modified by Zapman." Or something like that.

yoszi · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 7:26 pm

something's screwed up in everyone's definition of 'reference', world wide.

is above legal ?

synj · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 7:29 pm

yoszi, technically no. 30% of the image must be changed completely in order for it to be considered your own. if you ask me it should be 80% or higher.

-synj

Mr Weasel · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 8:44 pm

Meep-meep. Someone call the FBI, please. I'm outta here. This is dangerous stuff !

DuKEZ · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 8:57 pm

yeah u cant take someones b&w picture.. color it and say it was complete yers.. and in this case.. looks pretty much the same.. u just modified it a bit.. course u gonna have to give credit to the original artist.. and list yerself like artist.. (someone) colored: (by you).. but this i dunno.. i think tinsch says it best.. modified by: ...

use that line.. or "inserts by" :P

zapman · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 9:04 pm

OK

From all the feed back in 30min on this msg, I say will do MY OWN drawing, thanks for the feedback ill show u my own drwaing and teh finesh airbrush latter on!

ZAPmAn

spooge demon · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2000 9:24 pm

The traditional way is to sign:

your sig
after (original artist)

Whether or not you will be sued depends on how aware and how bored and hungry Boris' lawyers are, and whether you have any money or not. Your client will have a cow and fire you, because they might have deep pockets, even if you don't. They might sue you, as well.

I personally think... you would probably loose this one in court. The wrong side of the grey area, I think.

Pixelator · member Member # Joined: 03 Mar 2000 Posts: 90

There is definitely a copyright issue involved, but nonetheless, you still deserve to get 5

for the following�

1st

for realizing that there might be a copyright issue involved.
2nd

for presenting your question to your fellow artists.
3rd

for showing your image next to the source image.
4th

for replying to the comments without resorting to flame-attacks.
5th

for finding a good solution. (As you written �do MY OWN drawing�)

There you go�

out of

I do wish that more people would follow your example!

zapman · Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2000 2:59 pm

HeHe Thanks again for the feedback!
Pixelar, thanks for your nice msg, I just thot it be a nice question to ask as we all know we seen a artwork done by someone and want to reproduse it and wonder how to give them cridit.

zapman

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

i kis Pixelator!
i kis zapman!

*gives everyone some caviar, bread, and vodka*
LETS SING AND CELEBRATE, COMRADES!!!

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Mr Weasel · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2000 11:15 pm

Horray to the Zapman ! Now that's a real creative artist ! Show it to us when its done !

*calls off the FBI and gives Zapman a big medal of honor*

Weasels are cool. You don't agree-->We cook you !