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Pigeon
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2000 8:23 am     Reply with quote
I'll never get over Marathon...
Before I get too far on this piece (actual piece is much bigger), I wanted to get some feedback from y'all, especially on composition, lighting, movement, and illusory space. Or let me know if anything else looks really weird:



Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2000 11:05 am     Reply with quote
Hi

I like it. The only thing that bothers me is the needless (to my eyes) space on the top and bottom side of the characters. If you cropped more tightly the monster would fill the whole pic vertically, making it look a lot bigger and more scary.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2000 8:45 pm     Reply with quote
Good start. I like the projectile trail.
Just one problem. The gun seems a little too small to be able to shoot out a rocket.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2000 11:04 pm     Reply with quote
i think the compositon needs balance. the characters are on the left and nothing really balancing the picture. the monster is also looking lower-left, further inclining the composition to the left

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2000 5:36 am     Reply with quote
Well, how about this version :



/Leo

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2000 5:18 pm     Reply with quote
look at the ssspace. i think it still needs balance.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2000 7:58 pm     Reply with quote
I see your points Ferrozuka, 4s. And thanks for the image suggestion Leo; I may steal some ideas from your rendering if that's okay? Here's a crop of my image; the cropping may help with the balance too. I see how the image weights to the left, but I've indicated how I see the movement to flow. I've imagined in my eye that the fusion pistol blasts (oh where are you true Marathon fans?) on the right balance the action on the left. Do you think this works?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2000 8:59 pm     Reply with quote
yeah, i think that works good. the perspective is going to add to the balance too.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2000 9:05 pm     Reply with quote
Just a quick art lesson about composition. Try and use the rule of thirds. It will make your image look much better...
Looky here at the pic;

if you try and put the two faces near the crossections of the lines, you will already have a better picture. I think most people have noticed that there's something wrong with the placement, and I think this is the best way to fix it...Just my two cents... it looks good btw.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2000 10:20 pm     Reply with quote
Hey, how about adding one more dude with the gun at the right? This may helps for the balance, i think. And of course you can take ideas from my so-called 'rendering' =).

akh: image dosen't shown up ...
/Leo

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2000 9:39 am     Reply with quote
okay, i think i fixed... the picture shows up now
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:27 pm     Reply with quote
couldn't see it above.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:52 pm     Reply with quote
arg.. something screwy is goin on... okay, last time ( it really did show up last time, i swear! )

if not, try http://www.geocities.com/completefx/thirds.jpg
sorry if it doesnt work, but you get the idea about composition and the rule of thirds, right?

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Pigeon
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2000 4:36 pm     Reply with quote
akh,
yes, I see what you're saying, and I usually try to follow the rule of thirds, but rules like that are meant to be broken

Let me just be clear on something:
Leo's image was not done by me. It is a copy (or modification) of my image. I appreciate his suggestion, but my image is technically copyrighted, so let's not make a habit of this.

Thanks for all the suggstions folks. It's been extremely helpful to have some 3rd party input.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2000 5:49 pm     Reply with quote
ehhe, we were all editing Leo's 'version'
at first i thought it was Pigeon just posting his own different version
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2000 2:51 pm     Reply with quote
Just wanted to update you all with the finished piece:



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2000 2:56 pm     Reply with quote
I think it looks much better
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