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Oscar Alexander
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 12:35 am     Reply with quote
I've been working on this one for about a month on and off (approx. 9 hours total). In my opinion it's still unfinished, but I decided to put it up anyway. This is actually the first drawing I made in Photoshop. There are some points I wish I had worked out better at start, such as the legs and upperarms (way out of proportions). Furthermore, the sky on the background is JPEG image (lame, but I wasn't feeling for spending some hours drawing clouds), sorry. That's all, I hope you can give me some constructive critisizm...

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Funfetus
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 12:54 am     Reply with quote
Good start -- you've got the techniques down. What bothers me about it is the modeling, though...the shading indicates shapes and contours that you probably didn't intend. Like the pectoral muscles seem to be concave until the bottom, where they suddenly flare out. Also, the thighs seem to be indented just above the boots. If you kept your shading on a different layer, these should be easy to fix.

You also might want to tone down the saturation on the dodged areas.

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DrBof
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 2:51 am     Reply with quote
i really like texture of the lower legs superb
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Joachim
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 8:04 am     Reply with quote

Hey alex,
Nice drawing !
Could be cool with a more continuity in the coloring, ...maybe a bit of color influence from the rest of the enviroment.
Also, would be nice if the lighning affects the indian a bit more, that would have increased the contrast and given more depth to the picture.

Anyway, keep up the good work !

joachim

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Oscar Alexander
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 8:11 am     Reply with quote
Thanks for the feedback! Even though I won't be modifying this one anymore (adaping a new style) I will definitly keep your tips in mind for my next project(s)
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micke
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 8:39 am     Reply with quote
Yo, You got a nice start there.....
Just wondering, i was a little confused with the legs. I could'nt see if he had long boots
or if it was his legs. I saw that the legs had slightly different colours than the other skin areas. Maybe you could make the boots darker and more brown and add alittle more leathery effect to them?

Just a suggestion.

-Micke
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derPunkt
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 9:11 am     Reply with quote
Hmmmmmmm, constructive criticism.
First, are those knees or boots bend in that way. If those are knees, delete em.
But as I can see there was no intention to make this picture look real, so I won't stick to that matter.
Oh and the clavicle sucks big time.
But I do like the lightning, but unfortunately it doesn't fit the rest of the picture.
dP
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Oscar Alexander
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 11:09 am     Reply with quote
Ah... the legs. I told you they sucked

The thing is, the leather leg-pads (often worn by cowboys) are almost the same shade as the skin-tone I used, which makes it a bit confusing. The indian is supposed to be levitated, with his lower legs (covered with wooly boots) bent slightly backwards. But that didn't work out too well either. There is one thing I need to know though... what the hell is wrong with his f*cking clavicle?!
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Kindred
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 1:31 pm     Reply with quote
That's a nifty start there

I do have to agree that the texture on the legs looks good. The actual underlaying drawing could be refined a bit, though. It looks like you have a pretty good style going there with your drawing.

Also, the texturing could be a bit more even. Parts of him are textured well, and other parts not at all.

For your first drawing in photoshop, it is really an amazing start. I think my first experience in photoshop involved abusing clouds and lens flares.



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Aiko
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 8:04 pm     Reply with quote
Um I noticed the clavicle too... For one, you have to watch your source of lighting. There is a shadow under the pectoral muscle which means the light source is from above. But then you have a shadow above the clavicle, which is impossible unless theirs a light source on top and bottem. Which I'm guessing their isn't. There might be a slight shadow above, but you should also put one on the bottem to make the bone stand out.
Sorry I studied anatomy...don't even want to start to get into taht!
But I'm sure its better then I can do so great job
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Tinusch
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2000 8:32 pm     Reply with quote
I'm probably the only one here who doesn't see anything wrong with this pic... I love it. I might be able to nitpick out a few flaws if I really tried, but man this pic is so awesome I don't want to bother trying to. I LOVE the colors. It's so bright and... uh, colorful. Kind of reminds me of Outcast. And I like the way you kept the black lines, too. It makes it look cartoonish, but in a good way. And I love that lightning effect and the glow on his... uh, balls. Whatever. You know what I mean. In conclusion, this pic rules.
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