[malakyte]

Stop Bush NNNNNOOOOOOWWWWWW!

The Geneva Convention and the US massacre of POWs in Afghanistan

Bad Stuff

How PR Sold the [First] War in the Persian Gulf

[Awetopsy]

I wonder what president wouldnt have somebody say that they needed to be impeached.

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[Anthony]

Yes, that would be the incident where the prisoners who had surrendered took up arms and killed the guards and a CIA op? If they do it once, they'll do it again. Better to off them before they kill more people. Who the hell believes what they read on the World Socialist Website anyway? Yeesh

[gigatron]

malakyte well said, i stand by what you said exactly. Bush has gotta go down, he will eventually but like.. the more he is in power the more the world will stop turning and stand under a dog that craps all over it.

Here are some authentic real photographs i collected of him:
www.cgocable.net/~miki/bush/

[Aber]

hey malakyte, where is your source for that hmm? I would like to read it. gigatron you're pretty durn funny, but I think it's more of an issue that you would hate any american president. have you ever liked one? i mean you just need something to make fun of so you spend your hours finding pictures of him, that is sad.

[Impaler]

1. Bush isn't in charge of the CIA. It runs fairly independently for security reasons and such.
   
2. Impeaching Bush would just put Dick Cheney in charge, genius. Everyone else would still be there, leaving very little change.
   
3. Killing prisoners so that they won't kill us makes us the terrorists, Anthony.
   
4. This whole forum is becoming some sort of spawning pool for Orwellian paranoid conspiracists.
   

Yeah.

[Awetopsy]

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Originally posted by Impaler:
This whole forum is becoming some sort of spawning pool for Orwellian paranoid conspiracists.

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heh... well said.

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[Snakebyte]

Sence its only a matter of time before the Saddam issue comes up I would just like to remind you of another tyrant who was ignored for many years.
This leader ruled his nation for years and was overlooked by all those around him, thought of as a harmless leader that posed no threat to anyone, much like some people think of Saddam. Why did everyone think that? Well, because the leader said he was no threat to anyone, and nearby nations agreed. So, no one interfered, just let him be.

At this point if America (or any nation) had attacked what would other nations think of us? Probably not anything good.

But nothing happened and this tyrant went on to be known as the worse dictator in history having murdered millions of Jews.

Much like Hitler, Saddam is capable of far more than one may believe and he needs to be stopped BEFORE he becomes the next Hitler. Regardless of what others think of America and Bush some things just have to be done, and who else is going to do it?...


I�m not going to comment on the Afghan POW�s because I WASEN�T THERE!! And nether were you.

And as Anthony implied, you cant trust everything you read in the paper/news, you are hearing it from left wing Democrats who only give you ONE opinion and ONE side of the story. Whom ever writes the news, Democrats/Republican you only get half the truth. It doest matter what part of the world you are in its still half the story. Its almost Propaganda..

Unfortunately most of the media is anti Bush so of course there going to make every thing sound negative.

I LIKE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!


You may flame me now�

[gigatron]

Hmm interesting, like malakyte said has any one of you read, saw these sites? ... I was shocked at seeing the videos, i mean i read ALOT about these things and usually ppl would dismiss any discussion i would start on the subject with something such as where is the proof, or something similar of that sort... but damn it when i saw these videos... weird stuff :/ Ah well its fun to see varrying topics on these forums

Also thaught I'd mention here is another site I know about http://www.counterpunch.org this site is not fully based on fact but on opinion as well, its like an online news paper with articles written by varrying people.

I dont know how you people can support bush.. I mean, especially dismiss these without even erm reading them? At least not fully, you might watch CNN (haha...) and then when u see these not read them and judge them but erm.. how's that logical anywho ill not post on the subject no more since most bush boy supporters will flame me

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[[Shizo]]

Lets all face it.. the world is a huge crap hole, and you will never be right about anything for as long as you try.
One pleasing thought is that you wount live very long so just bare with it..

[Aber]

depressing shizo!

[[Shizo]]

It's true..

[Snakebyte]

Bush isn�t perfect, no one is, but I still like him. The only thing that pisses my off is the small things that just don�t make since.

Take Environmentalist for example, I�m all about the environment and all but his choice to remove underbrush is the only logical thing to do to prevent great fires.
For centuries natural fires did the job, small and short lived. When man started to inhabit the country building towns and cities we started to extinguish these small fires. Over the course of two centuries the under growth began to build up, fires get harder to extinguish until we have fires like the ones we recently had.
Those who think he wants to just level all forest are misinformed,

it�s just undergrowth.


As far as Afghans go, again I wasn�t there�.

[Awetopsy]

[Shizo] Its true.... if thats what you focus on. THere are alot of great things in Life. choose to focus on them and Life will seem a little less "crap-hole-like".

now enough of my self help guru-crap.

[[Shizo]]

Well, i WILL try to get a lot of money
Then life will be nice and fun. We'll see.

[Aber]

Shizo, have you ever been in love? Life is fucking amazing the first few weeks. Then (insert your comment here).

[[Shizo]]

I know i know.. Love is made to hold a short period of time in breeding purposes, so at the end my statement holds true

[malakyte]

gigatron: yeah doesn't look like it's worth discussing any more. People just don't do their research, and it's just too tiring to read some of this support bush crapo.
Thanks for the link!

Aber: I posted three links in my first post, there is plenty there, plus there are plenty of books on the topic. There are plenty more sources too. OH yeah, Martin Luther King was a good one.

Impalar: Just to clarify something, I'm personally NOT paranoid of anything. I just like to find truth.

Snakebite: Stooping to Saddams level (ie continuing the war in iraq) is no way to solve problems. As for the POW: the RED CROSS is there! Read the articles. As for what you said about the media thing...exactly, so why do you like Bush? again read the articles and whatever else is out there.

and again, I'm not paranoid. I'm just informed.

[Aber]

malakyte why don't you give us some of these links that you "research" on. is that asking for much, I mean we all need to hate bush like you do, so give us some info!

[Aber]

And the socialist movement site, and the obvious unamerican canadian site you provided at the top isn't what im talking about.

[malakyte]

yes, I think killing unarmed soldiers and breaching the geneva conventions is a lovely thing. I'm not suprized they fired at the CIA operator! God, I would! Would you rather be tortured by the CIA instead? Thats what they are doing! Questioning them, and then killing them all. Did you even read the articles? Do you even read the papers? The CIA/US military/northern alliance have killed thousands more then died at the wtc, and the international red cross has confirmed that. These are war crimes, and a lot of these people that are dieing were held at gun point so they would fight with them.

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[klaivu]

I suppose this is the reason they don't want to be in on the war crimes council ...

And, since the plan seems to be eradicating all that is disgruntled, why sign the ban on biological weapons or ballistical missiles ?

I suppose they might've detonated the wtc themselves to get their oil pipes through Afghanistan, then wagged the dog some, but as clumsy and idiotic as the governmental system is as a whole, i doubt they ever could have been capable of it.

[elam]

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For centuries natural fires did the job, small and short lived. When man started to inhabit the country building towns and cities we started to extinguish these small fires. Over the course of two centuries the under growth began to build up, fires get harder to extinguish until we have fires like the ones we recently had.
Those who think he wants to just level all forest are misinformed,

it�s just undergrowth.

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George wants to let logging companies do this job. Logging companies need *trees*, big ones, not small ones. Thos aren't profitable. They don't log underbrush by the way, either.
People who actually study this kind of thing for a living, you know, scientist, have slammed George's plan. The worst drought in 50 years has something to do with this as well.
You don't need logging companies to do this sort of thing. You need controlled burns.

Just as the 'War on Terrorism' provided an opportunity for huge spending on military equipment when it isn't needed and oppressive, unconstitutional legislation such as the 'Patriot Act', the worst fires in 100 years have provided an opportunity to fatten the pockets of logging companies to log large, profitable trees, not undergrowth. Get a clue.

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[apocalypse newt]

hehehe check this out.. and i was thinking someone should start a propoganda thread...

-don't take this pic too seriously btw

[Gort]

I am a memeber of a secret underground society; we're presently building a mothership and are going to leave the earth in hopes of finding a better world to live on. Anyone can join us; it cost $8.34, but you have to like beer, jagermeister, video games and baked beans. Any takers? Anyone? Anyone?

[Giant Hamster]

Man, that's such a bad-ass car. I don't even care about cars...nor do I drive...but: Gimme dat beautiful shiznit!!!!

[Aber]

Hey Vesuvius that was post 666 for you.

Tom don't forget the U.S future plan to purpously kill innocent citizens of all defenseless counties and to develop a chemical putting it into Canadian water systems that will allow them not to be jelious of America anymore.

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[roundeye]

jealous you mean? of america? thats laughable.

theres really not anything to be jealous of. the only differences america has with canada are negative ones.

first one i could find. sorry, we used to be first untill 2000. i guess were slipping. 6th place isnt THAT bad i guess... http://www.malawihere.com/viewnews.asp?id=484&recnum=10&catid=

[Aber]

So defensive, but it was a joke.

[Vesuvius]

there are enough lazy bush bashers out there who make up news to suit them, don't be one of them. there are plenty of legit sources you could cite for legit points, do some research though, don't just take the word of someone else with their own political agenda.

if you want to be taken seriously, take your own point serious enough to back them up with a believable source.