[T_England]

sorry for the late response but yeah, soo cool man. Hehe i think the americans invented cars, therefore fenders..i thinks I cant recall if they were in the concept but looking at it i think theres a small line deliniating one. One aspect that might not have come through in the concept is the engine is articulated on a pivot from the carrige it sort of sits on a pin-hinge. but yeah just picky little stuff over all i love this dude, you did it more than justice. the folding canopy i never thought of that. I like it
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[durgldeep]

Since I had to look up "fender" origin anyhow:

US English = fender (French = garde-boue [mud])
British English = wing
British English (vintage/detached wing) = mudguard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_%28vehicle%29

[T_England]

I stand corrected hehe
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[Quintus Dias]

yey let's celebrate 3 pages, lol.


Interesting with the fender, yea I thought I have heard the word fender sometime. However I was confusing with the protective thing on boats, they call that fender too, right? protective makes sense.....


durgldeep, real neat sculpt.

T_England - I might play around with it some more when I get the time, need to solve steering and axls for both steering and engine as you say.


A steampunk watch I started the day before yesterday, hopefully I will finish today.

[Quintus Dias]

effect testing with composite nodes and then gimp.

[durgldeep]

Edit: forgot to say, last one is really cool, Quintus Dias - !

[the-John-Doe]

@Quintus Dias; Yep, u do good practice indeed
- thanks for ur words even though I know that the txturing's too basic n lame..
I'm not @ CGsociety, perhaps some other Doe

@Durgldeep; quite nice bust so far
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[durgldeep]

Thanks the-John-Doe. Had to pause it to celebrate, hehe.

[Quintus Dias]

durgldeep, thank you. Yea the revival of this thread was partly why I came back to Sijun, thought I could help boost some life into Sijun again.
Looking real good there the stuff you do, u know you can actually sculpt this way in Blender aswell. There's a setting for multiresolution, as I understand it has its roots in the same tecnique used for Sculptris.
Amazing what kind of resolution you can get in 3d sculpting these days....
And that with 3d printers aswell.
Blender makes more and more sense the more one work in it, some things however feels like upside down lol.

Haha love the page 3 celebration.


the-John-Doe,thank you, would love some more stuff from you.


Ok finally got some time to fool around with the steam watch that I started with earlier. A bit of a rough concept but the main parts are there, I doubt it will work Lmao. Made for the speed model session but I didn't rush it, 2 hours effective modeling. took a couple of hours to make the composition and materials and such.
I really need to dive into armature "bones" as a next assignment.
Ah damn this post became lenghty aswell.

[durgldeep]

Hmmmm, will finish posting this first (before replying):

Googled and googled for an 'intersect all' function (Blender): how to intersect two cubes, for example (ie. make an edge/vertexes appear along intersecting planes (such as the intersection marked by the center point (below)): fuse all edges and faces into a single object):



Doesn't look like there's an easy answer... My solution: do it in Sketchup (couple clicks) and import (hehe):



Nice surprise, it's triangulated already (apparently a result of .dae export; perfect for export to Sculptris). Am setting the stage for some fancy stonework (inspired by the interesting (and kinda crappy) irregular surface of the "page three" experiment): bas relief...

[Quintus Dias]

I can't remember what you called the function in 3d studio Max but I remember you could make things hollow and such with a cube and then a tube running through it.
This you cannot do in blender, well you can do it but not effectively without triangles messing with your mesh. Blender works with quads which makes for poor render results with triangles....
I tried high detail sculpting in sculptris previously but there's a loss of detail.

There are ways to work around this.



If one render a face divided into a triangle you get loss in the normal when adding a smooth group.



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[Quintus Dias]

But there is a boolean operation possible in Blender, forgot to mention.... The trick is that if you intersect two cubes in Blender you will still get those triangles, so I usually stay away from boolean operations.

You will find boolean operations under "modifer" section, there you can "union" "difference" or interesect as you previously mentioned.

[durgldeep]

Thanks for all the help.

I've never used 3d studio Max (thinking of someone else?) - or maybe u're just thinking-out-loud about the difference between the two programs?

This reply was stalled by me learning a bunch of stuff about Blender, hehe -- and I should say I have nothing against Blender. I've got both installed: 2.49 "stable" and 2.5 Beta. This might be causing more confusion (in me) since most info I read doesn't say which version it's talking about. Also, rightly or wrongly, I'm using 2.49 (again because it's "stable", because the interface is (a bit more) familiar and because it does all I need it to do (which is deform Sculptris models)).

While you were writing about Boolean operations I was reading about it (elsewhere); neat coincidence, hehe. More about the downside: "output polygons can be of generally poor quality". Yep, just tried and that's exactly what happens (in 2.49, at least)...

Understood that Blender is quad-based (and handles triangles less efficiently). I'm glad to see triangles and aim for triangles because Sculptris doesn't handle quads (at all?). Again, I have nothing against Blender, just my current 'workflow' is anchored in Sculptris. Mainly because the interface lets me work very quickly. Output is my main concern, ie. "quick'n'dirty" [the John Doe] or 'whatever works', etc.

I don't know what a "normal" is - but I'll learn.

[Sumaleth]

Dias, you're showing some good 3d work there. You've certainly improved a lot in your time away from Sijun. The abstract one reminds me of early Darrel Anderson.
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[Quintus Dias]

durgldeep, yea I started out 3d studio and truespace many years ago that's why I compared, that was before the time in Sijun though. lol constantly reminder about ones own age.
Normal is the normal direction I assume? if you have an object the normal can be pointing away from the camera instead against the camera, glass reflection really suffers from that, hence you have to correct all normals. Well I am still newbie so don't trust my words here lol, much there is still to be learned my young padawan.
I believe you know a lot of stuff about Blender, I can see you are messing around with the software.
Things will be picked up that way, keep it up.


Sumaleth, thank you, very kind. I really liked that link with Darrels work, looks pretty cool.


oh my oh my I tried to keep it short.

This is a pose test I made to reply with. I Find it difficult to pose, mainly because the mesh changes with the pose, haven't found a good solid way to weigth down proper areas... guess I need more tutorials about posing.
btw this mesh beneath has a lot of problems everywhere.

[durgldeep]

[Quintus Dias]

yea you know they have this hardcore modeling challenge over at Cgsociety and the detail that they can create with sculpting is amazing, hope to get there some day.
durgldeep, u know I thought I could show you the multiresolution, better work with the latest beta though. I currently use the official 2.54 beta, been thinking about som latest builds because the obj exporter doesn't work in this version.
Anyway, the multires is pretty sweet; I managed to get up around 2 million vertices with it but then it lags. oh wait scrap that I just tried with 1.5 million which was enough for my 4GB Ram... However I previewed lower and managed to get to 6 million in sculpt mode.... crazy lagging though Lmao.

This one here is around 100 000 vertices, subdivide with simple and it keeps the base structure.

[durgldeep]

Edit [mumbles about sleepwalking, or something]:

Just realized I *forgot* to post the "multiresolution" reply (partly because it's me complaining about jargon (forgettable)). Sorry about that (disconnect).

Thanks for mentioning it again. Saw a similar image (as above) when I first read about Blender adding the 'Sculptris' function. Forgot that Python makes a difference in performance and that likely Sculptris is not associated with Python (?). Which might explain why my (Sculptris) lag limit is about 150,000 faces (more if wireframe is hidden, though I don't know how much more).

Anyhoo, this machine is 4GB RAM... Will check it out.

[Quintus Dias]

Kept doing the steam punk theme, these are steam punk glasses. Kind of attractive idea actually, steampunk.

There's an idea with these glasses, the glass protector closes when there is too much UV radiation...everything driven by steam by automatic.
lol, ah well I liked the idea, makes more sense about the detail with an explanation.

[durgldeep]

Didn't know about the Steampunk genre ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk ).
Awesome model (and lighting, etc.), as usual.

Can't justify spending more time on this (below). Couple days ago I botched it badly...
Yesterday it seemed to just 'flow' (dunno what's up with that). Addictive (adding more and more detail) but gotta move on.

[Quintus Dias]

Thank you very kind, that's a real neat hand btw. I like it

More posing experimenting, rather have just one piece of a character for now. Think I am starting to understand the weight painting, it is troublesome to make it the way I want though.
slapped on a quick texture for the legs, easier to see problem areas, there are a lot of them



You know durgldeep, Steampunk could be a cool theme here in the gallery finished.


I wonder where gotnoSpoons went?

[durgldeep]

[Quintus Dias]

Regarding weight painting, it could be that I didn't divided the low poly mesh enough. Just thought of that earlier today, I had subdivision set but didn't apply it. Maybe the information wasn't read because of that.
Hmm...


Some shameless promotion for my site, I added my first texture today. Had to experiment with the texture to see what could be done with it.

The texture can be found on my site in the texture section, just added it today.
http://www.umbus.com

[Quintus Dias]

Thing is as I learned from this tutorial I am gonna post here is that when you weight paint you mark the bone that is gonna be affected.
I wish they would discuss the mesh more in detail, especially with different sections.
Sure as in this tutorial you weigh over the bone area, ah well I am not gonna ramble.... I think that one learns from doing, gonna keep experiment with it.

Here's a good tutorial, haven't finished it yet though.
Just the first part.
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Tutorials/Animation/BSoD/Character_Animation/Upper_body_armature


Maan my internet is shaky today, keeps bouncing me offline.

[Tomasis]

lovely stuffs, durgledeep and matthew

steampunk is not bad theme, i think. I will definitely look into it for doing 2d stuffs.

I was impressed when I checked Sintel movie when I found the link by accident in Cgsociety forum. Wow, was it done with Blender?Oh yeah, opensource rules

Sintel is best movie I have seen, less plastiscky.. more subtle lighting, colors, more varied textures, material properties. maybe it is postproduction job hehe

anyway, keep it up , dudes!

[durgldeep]

Shameless!
Hmmmm, thought I visited your site before, Quintus Dias; maybe it was newly created (can't recall what I saw - maybe there were no images yet...).
Very nice texture (reminds me of shipping; love rusty doors, forklifts, etc.).

Doing some research: Google images for "Steampunk". (Oh wow, a steampunk cameo: http://www.making-jewelry-now.com/images/steampunk-cameo-brooch-21202119.jpg ).

Quick'n'dirty piping (below). Seem to recall Blender has an extrude-along-a-path function too (don't know where/how); did this in Sketchup; import; Mesh/Faces/Convert Triangles to Quads. High face count but will worry about that later (can find Modifiers/Decimate but - long story); good enough for concepts. Still in B2.49, yep; 2.54b caused some minor 'issues' and I lost patience; will tackle that later, too; hehe. Ditto re weight paint (later). Hit a flat spot yesterday (no motivation/inspiration); disaster!; must keep ahead of that (pausing to think or wrestle with stuff is a killer). [Er, stumbling onto Alessandro Calza might have had something to do with it too, lol.]

Tomasis, thanks. "Open source rules", agreed! Hehe. But don't get me started on 'Heraldic French', gatekeeping, etc. - oops, too late. Even in freeware, one thing that irks me is opaque terminology (see "Boolean", lol). Where there's talent I think there should be open doors to developing it (yay Sketchup, GIMP, Inkscape, OpenOffice...). That's the great thing about open source in general (including Blender): blows the doors off.

[durgldeep]

"Screenshot" still generating unreadable jpgs (am doing it manually). Imported mesh is messed up but I know how to sort it (should have thought of it before). Avoiding showing the mesh got me fiddling with lighting - but *fail* re turning on cast shadows (no big surprise).

[durgldeep]

I will have shadows, dammit.
Overhaul in Sketchup (where everything's straightforward [cough])...

[Quintus Dias]

About Sintel, there sure has been controversy around the forums regarding the new short movie, the negatives have been talking about older generation of graphics.
I actually agree that it could have been made better, blender should be more powerful than what they could come up with.
I am really grateful that they do the movies though, the movies are made along side with development on Blender where they find useful stuff in the movie added to the Blender.
I just watched the trailer earlier today, I liked the story but some things didn't make sense. Someone attacked her �n the snow, where did he come from?
lol some scenes were just weird.

thanks guys, durgldeep & tomasis.

durglgeep, have you activated cash shadow?