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raybender
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:14 pm     Reply with quote
rinthe: i cant agree with jgwong. using color profiles is very important when showing your work on the internet. i think the reason why your colors are changed while saving it, is because your image is automatically saved in SRGB color Profile (because this is something like the color profile most monitors are capable to show) if a color managment aware browser gets an image which has no color profile attached to it, the browser assumes it to be srgb. so if you really wanna make sure that you colors look on other peoples screens like you painted them, the easiest way would be to set your new documents to SRGB Color space, work in SRGB and save in SRGB... this way they are also saved like they are.. and look better even on browsers which are not color managed (e.g. Firefox) but then you really need to use the CONVERT to Profile function and convert it to SRGB before sending it to the Web to make sure the colors stay like they are intended to be. When using the Save for Web function Pshop saves the image automatically in SRGB which leads to color and brightness shifts how you describe them.

of course the whole color profile thing doesnt make much sense if your monitor isnt calibrated at all. you can find tutorials on calibrating your monitor by hand on the net, or even better if you can gain access to calibration device (Eye1 Display) you can calibrate your montir exactly (this will make sure that your image looks the same on others peoples monitors, but only if they calibrated them too Smile )

this site describes it a bit better and also explains jgwons problems : http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_page_profile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html


big Sorry for the long post Smile heres the my bad colors SRGB profiled post:

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:18 am     Reply with quote
My yearly speed painting post =P




Ive also updated my website with some of the work I did on Hellboy 2:
http://www.karlsimon.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:31 am     Reply with quote
Simon Gustafsson wrote:
My yearly speed painting post =P


Ditto. Nice!

Some dualistic DS doodles:





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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:49 am     Reply with quote
thanks a lot for comments on my last one, everyone!



Simon: great!
Samson: one of your stronger ones!
awesome, all!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:40 am     Reply with quote
damn, hideeyo this one is just awesome Shocked

Simon Gustafsson > aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah awesome ><

samson, daryl do0pe !!!!!!





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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:51 am     Reply with quote
Studying rainy day.



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:09 am     Reply with quote
farvus, paoo, samson, andree - top class.




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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:55 am     Reply with quote
Raybender: Indeed, sRGB is the profile to go with if you want to use profiles for any reason whatsoever. I'd like to share another point of view, from someone who worked with and designed color conversion hardware: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/color-management/is-for-wimps.htm
And I'll stop here. Let's find a solution that works and keep painting!

Didn't want to post empty-handed, so here's an old paint.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:40 am     Reply with quote
pao thanx, nice ones!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:23 am     Reply with quote
epic failure Laughing




went on a sharpen frenzy on the old one, not sure if it's really working in my favor Razz

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:02 pm     Reply with quote
pao: sweet!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:55 pm     Reply with quote
Heloo eveyone, Smile just joined Sijun Forums yesterday. Very Happy Holy smokes theres alot of kick ass work here. I need to practise my speedpainting so heres my first post!! These were super quick , and I didnt really know what I was drawing when I started out, they just kinda materialized lol :

( Hope I get this right)









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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:16 pm     Reply with quote
Excellent work here, especially, Simon gustaffon, Samson reaper, Daril, Paoo.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:07 pm     Reply with quote
wow, feerik!!! Shocked



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:41 pm     Reply with quote
Go, Go, Go!


Saturday film studies.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:54 pm     Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:11 pm     Reply with quote
raybender wrote:
rinthe: i cant agree with jgwong. using color profiles is very important when showing your work on the internet. i think the reason why your colors are changed while saving it, is because your image is automatically saved in SRGB color Profile (because this is something like the color profile most monitors are capable to show) if a color managment aware browser gets an image which has no color profile attached to it, the browser assumes it to be srgb. so if you really wanna make sure that you colors look on other peoples screens like you painted them, the easiest way would be to set your new documents to SRGB Color space, work in SRGB and save in SRGB... this way they are also saved like they are.. and look better even on browsers which are not color managed (e.g. Firefox) but then you really need to use the CONVERT to Profile function and convert it to SRGB before sending it to the Web to make sure the colors stay like they are intended to be. When using the Save for Web function Pshop saves the image automatically in SRGB which leads to color and brightness shifts how you describe them.

of course the whole color profile thing doesnt make much sense if your monitor isnt calibrated at all. you can find tutorials on calibrating your monitor by hand on the net, or even better if you can gain access to calibration device (Eye1 Display) you can calibrate your montir exactly (this will make sure that your image looks the same on others peoples monitors, but only if they calibrated them too Smile )

this site describes it a bit better and also explains jgwons problems : http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_page_profile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html




thanks for the detailed response Very Happy I actually do have a eye 1 display 2 and i calibrated my monitor already. so i have to convert the color profile every time? what if i just leave everything at default? isn't it already srgb?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:44 am     Reply with quote
study of some mountain in chile. from a pic on flickr. i was in the middle of making all sorts of brushes when photoshop crashed. its been crashing alot on leopard... anyone else have this problem? I have cs2
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:26 am     Reply with quote
From ref.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:34 am     Reply with quote
feerik, simon, paoo, hide - woah!

older speedy

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:36 am     Reply with quote
Hi all. looking good everyone. here is one from me. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:05 am     Reply with quote
very cool Ditlev!

another speedy...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:53 am     Reply with quote
more spam Twisted Evil



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:58 pm     Reply with quote

weee!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:19 pm     Reply with quote
All: Great!
Simon Gustafsson, Hide, paoo, daryl, Ben Mauro, annis, farvus, Ditlev, Brokencow: Outstandingly superdublomatic pile of awesomeness!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:48 pm     Reply with quote
You people are mad

Fat Tony from photoshop



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:04 pm     Reply with quote
Brokencow* Ditlev farvus Ben Mauro watmough FeeriK daryl Samsonsreaper d0pe !!

new bad bot : - (




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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:40 pm     Reply with quote
Hey guys, haven't posted in some time, these pages are looking awesome!

a little more worked up than a speed should be, but oh well, had fun with it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:38 pm     Reply with quote

I really need to learn how to draw buildings...hahahaha
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