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Awetopsy member
Member # Joined: 04 Oct 2000 Posts: 3028 Location: Kelowna
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:01 am |
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Holy Stink!!!!
http://www.toypaintings.com/gallery.htm
these are apparently acrylic paintings of toys... but they look like photos. No sign of brush work at all.
unbelievable. |
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Basement bound member
Member # Joined: 11 Mar 2001 Posts: 874 Location: Calgary.ab.ca
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:33 am |
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You know I looked through them all and some of them I might be streached to believe. Only a few though, the rest I am like, I DON'T THINK SO!! Mostly because there is a inconsistance here. There seems to be no progression from 1983 to present. I would have to see them, to believe them.
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roundeye member
Member # Joined: 21 Mar 2001 Posts: 1059 Location: toronto
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:12 pm |
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yeah, its like a novelty and no more. how could you paint tin toys for years on end? i think id end up killing myself. definitley a job for someone with zero creativity, and for that i can appreciate it no longer than it takes for said novelty to wear off. |
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Awetopsy member
Member # Joined: 04 Oct 2000 Posts: 3028 Location: Kelowna
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:25 pm |
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still some great brush work. |
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Arm Head junior member
Member # Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Posts: 5 Location: London
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pixelsoldier member
Member # Joined: 18 Dec 1999 Posts: 728 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 1:24 pm |
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Amazing, isn't it? He is very well known - and yes, they ARE paintings. Not 'probably' paintings. |
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[Shizo] member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 1:43 pm |
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Check this out..
A digital photo is taken, and given to two people
1st person makes a copy of original file and gets.. an exact copy of an original photo!
2nd person loads up PS, zooms in real close, and on a new layer starts copying the photo pixel by pixel. Eyeballing or color-picking each pixel and placing one just like the original one on a new layer.
In about 2 months he's finished and has an identical piece as the first guy.
No point here, just an example that i thought was interesting. |
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Jelo member
Member # Joined: 29 Nov 2000 Posts: 122 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:18 pm |
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Haha!!! a living xerox machine and a very good one too but maybe he should concentrated on duplicating money instead. =) |
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Rat member
Member # Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Posts: 851 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:30 pm |
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This guy has waaay too much time on his hands. |
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Freddio Administrator
Member # Joined: 29 Dec 1999 Posts: 2078 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:08 pm |
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everyone says that any artist is able to acomplish photorealism, sure but to this extent?
if anyone says this guy has no talent then they are just kidding themselves.
but then again he has different refined skills to other artists (he just focuses on slavishly copying a photograph and he does this with amazing proficency) and therefore doesn't make him better than most of the elite artists around the world.
Hi work is simple, plain, technical, which is really rather boring. but it is through this photorealistic aproach that he is making a statement.
but it looks AWESOMEeew1#!@$#!
heh |
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tyron member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2000 Posts: 442 Location: Sweden, Stockholm
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:17 pm |
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poor guy... |
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V Shane member
Member # Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 189 Location: Other side of your screen
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 4:47 pm |
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I don't see the point. Maybe if he was employed a digital matte painter for Restaurant commercials.
Well it is STILL LIFE
Whaqt do they call Ponds...Still Water..stagnant
I am so greatful I failed still life in High School.........FANTASY..SCI FI!!!! |
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ZippZopp member
Member # Joined: 09 Jan 2002 Posts: 229 Location: CT
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 8:04 pm |
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his work is very amazing....i'm quite fascinated by this sort of work. Ive tried to paint with oils and acrylics while eliminating all brush work and its very very difficult. a few other artists are amazing like this too...check out work by Richard Estes and also Ralph Goings, they are both pretty amazing! |
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mjmcchesney member
Member # Joined: 26 Nov 2000 Posts: 218 Location: CT, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:09 pm |
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They're all paintings. This guy is very well-known for his hyper-realism. He works from photos, though, and thus there is a flatness to the majority of his work - it looks like a photo that's been painted. So, take that as you will...but yes, they're all done by hand, and no, it's not a farce.
[ June 28, 2002: Message edited by: mjmcchesney ] |
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Drunken Monkey member
Member # Joined: 08 Feb 2000 Posts: 1016 Location: mothership
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:42 pm |
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Its amaizing how realistic it is, but the subject matter is really really boring... |
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the_monkey member
Member # Joined: 20 May 2000 Posts: 688 Location: BC, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:51 pm |
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whats with all the negitive posts?
id love to have that much skill, regardless if its repetitive and mechanical.
yes the pics are boring, but so what, the guys freaking talented. |
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[Shizo] member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 3:46 am |
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It just depends what you consider talent.
the_monkey considers the exact copying of a photo with paintbrush a skill, while i consider having new concepts and creative ideas (as well as knowing how to put it down) a skill. Different people different things. |
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Tom Luth member
Member # Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 51 Location: Long Beach, Ca
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 12:54 pm |
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Fascinating. Seems to be a contemporary version of the "New Realists" of the late 60s, such as Don Eddy. The big difference seems to be scale. The New Realists (sometimes called Super Realists) painted HUGE paintings. The first Don Eddy I saw was while living in Hawaii in '66, of a rat with its head in a vice having diodes implanted in its brain. The painting was something like 10 x 12 ft. Quite an impact, particularly on a little kid!
Aside from the impressive ability to mimick a photo so well, I've found most of the work boring. Chuck Close's later work, however, evolved into some incredibly exciting spin-offs from his original direction that I very much enjoy. |
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Tom Luth member
Member # Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 51 Location: Long Beach, Ca
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 12:59 pm |
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quote: Originally posted by Freddio:
everyone says that any artist is able to acomplish photorealism, sure but to this extent?
if anyone says this guy has no talent then they are just kidding themselves.
I suppose that's where it can become a debate. Certainly, there is an incredible discipline and dedication involved; a skill that had to be refined and honed, and demanding of remarkable patience. I won't try to debate the issue of talent, beyond stating my own preference for works that reveal the hand of the artist, through brush strokes, arbitrary marks, gesture, etc. |
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Andromeda member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2000 Posts: 708 Location: Lower Ward, Sigil
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 1:21 pm |
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There is most definitely SKILLS there, so dont kid yourself .. the guy is good ...
You wanna paint well ? you wanna draw well ? every artist will tell you to start from still life .. draw from life.
this guy does just that ! and how !
Like nearly everyone else here, i think his subject matter is nothing more than eye-candy.
They're so boring =\ ...
but imagine this guy painting an Orc warchief, or a babe with guns or something ... imagine him doing stuff that we would do ...
anyway maybe he loves still life .. who knows.
maybe he has paintings of demons and out of this world cities that he never exibited ...
[ June 30, 2002: Message edited by: Andromeda[*] ] |
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Basse_Ex member
Member # Joined: 29 Mar 2002 Posts: 251 Location: The rainiest city in norway
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 11:46 pm |
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Very, very skillfull shit. No doubt. But, you know.... we've all seen the hyper-realists before. At least I have. But this is very good hyper-realism.
But... the subject matter... That's the really good stuff. TOYS!!! TOYS!!! TOYS!!!!!! WOHOOO!!!!! Hyper-realism is so boring when it does people, but toys, oh them sweeet toys, what a perfect thing to combine with hyper-realism. Splendid! |
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 5:47 pm |
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I think the negative posts are not about the subject stricly. It't more about copying photos like a human zerox machine--no imagination involved. The novelty of the idea wears off real quick. Why do it again and again when the artist has already proven he/she can reproduce a photo exactly? |
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[Shizo] member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 8:02 pm |
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Does that guy have an email? Cause i'd ask him to make me a wall-sized copy of the followind pic
And Lunatique is just jelous.. hehe joke., |
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Bone Dry Mcfly junior member
Member # Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Posts: 12 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:54 pm |
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Really amazing work... This guy is very skilled and talented.
I find most of the negative posts very hipocritical, you talk about how he is lacking creativity and the subject matter is dull. While most of you slobber and drool over any mechanical women with a huge rack fighting off grotesque looking creatures. The amount of paintings\drawings here (on this forum) that have to do with guns or action girls must be at least %90. And you go and downplay this guy's work because it deals with toys. In my opinion it's a much more interesting subject matter than super bitch from planet who gives a shit fighting off chewbacca look-a-likes. |
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zaar member
Member # Joined: 13 Sep 2000 Posts: 128 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 1:51 am |
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I find it highly amusing that this dudes technical painting abilities are waaay up there, but he uses them to copy photos that aren't very good to begin with...
Maybe it some kind of artistic statement� He might be doing it just to annoy people. Or people pay him lots to do it. |
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Loki member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 1321 Location: Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 2:03 am |
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[Hands Luna the Golden Bowl of Absolute Agreement(tm)] |
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Basse_Ex member
Member # Joined: 29 Mar 2002 Posts: 251 Location: The rainiest city in norway
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 4:22 am |
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Maybe he just likes toys.
Orc warlords and space-sluts don't seem naturally creative to me. Fantasy and sci-fi art has it's own weird language that most people follow very strictly. It becomes interesting first when there's a special use of that language, or a succesful breaking of it's laws. And I really like to think that creative things should always be interesting.
These days, we've seen everything. Images are tossed at us from every direction. All we do is copy things from way back in our memory.
What this guy does, is force the viewer to look at familliar objects in a slightly new way. It's wouldn't have be the same if it were photos. It wouldn't be the same if it were sculptures. It wouldn't be the same if it was just the toys. This is painting. And if you like toys, I can't see any reason you shouldn't like these.
I don't know if it's creative. But it's good craftmanship, it's fresh, it's nice to look at, and it's toys.
Could anyone really ask for more? |
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 4:50 am |
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quote: Originally posted by Loki:
[Hands Luna the Golden Bowl of Absolute Agreement(tm)]
Holy shit! I've never seen anything like it!
So pretty.... *stares* |
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edraket member
Member # Joined: 18 Sep 2001 Posts: 505 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 4:55 am |
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If these were photo's they would be mediocre.
I don't see how copying them with paint improves that. |
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James Bradford member
Member # Joined: 16 Feb 2002 Posts: 131 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:34 am |
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Basse_Ex: Absolutely right! I couldn't have thought or said it better myself. |
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