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Naeem
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:04 pm     Reply with quote
Hi guys,

I've been working on a big job lately, and am responsible for concepting, finishing the painting, and making it print-ready. However, I'm not aware of anything to do with color-calibration, and what to do when I'm finished with the painting. I can't show the paintings, but I'm painting them in RGB mode. I've heard that it's a good idea to convert the image to CMYK if you want to print.

However, when I convert it to CMYK, the colors are dull, and some options in photoshop are no longer available. Does this mean that I should just paint straight in CMYK mode from beginning to end? Because the prints that have been printed so far have definitely come out too dark on paper. Perhaps it's the quality of the printer? I'm using those big printers they have at Kinkos. They seem to be pretty high quality.

And so, once the print comes out too dark, I'm forced to brighten the painting, and print again; wasting money, and killing the painting somewhat.

Any advice would help? I'd google, but I'm not exactly sure where to begin. I'll go google now to get myself a bit more... educated.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:06 pm     Reply with quote
That the prints come out darker is common, it's a side effect of going from showing the images on a luminescent device to relying on light reflected off a surface, like you do with any kind of print. I tend to find upping brightness between 15-20 points in brightness/contrast is a fair rule of thumb, although I'm sure anyone actually versed in the art of printing will be gritting their teeth at such crudeness. Actually now that I think about it, you'd be better off adjusting gamma curves, so you preserve the black point of your image. At best you should have a colour profile for the printer you're using, and be using a calibrated monitor.

As for CMYK, it simply can't display all the colours RGB can, so yes, some hues will turn out rather dull. I don't know if painting directly in CMYK is a good idea, might be a bit of a pain, but the CMYK preview will let you check your colours from time to time to ensure you're not going too far off the gamut available at print time. Also the Photoshop colour picker will show a little warning triangle when you select a colour that is not within the CMYK gamut and even auto-suggest a safe colour.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:34 am     Reply with quote
screen colours = 16.7 million
CMYK print = approx 12,500 Wink

CTRL/CMD+Y in Photoshop will turn on CMYK Preview mode Smile

do you use CMYK colour slider or RGB in PS?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:28 pm     Reply with quote
annisahmad wrote:
I've heard that it's a good idea to convert the image to CMYK if you want to print.


At the print shop I use, they have an Epson that uses CMYK and an HP that uses RGB.

They once used a CMYK on the HP by mistake and it was a mess.

So just ask what format they use. There is no point in converting to CMYK, which limits colors, then they convert back to RGB to print on their machine.

When saving files I assume its RGB unless I adjust the file name:

filename_CYMK.psd


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:51 pm     Reply with quote
kinkos, you'll prolly want sRGB files..
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