| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Topic : "WIP - "The Irreverent Rapture"" |
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
 Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:59 pm |
 |
 |
After more than a decade of working digital, I've got a strong desire to get back to some oil painting. My friends have counseled start small, but I've decide to start big so I've laid out a composition that is essentially 4 feet by 6 feet. I figure why spend time creating a dozen small disasters when the same can be learned (or relearned) with one gigantic disaster.
My inspiration for my personal art has always been on a continuum somewhere between Francis Bacon and Pieter Bruegel the Elder... This piece is entitled, "The Irreverent Rapture."
tech notes: I laid out the composition in Photoshop and then had a 4' x 6' print made on heavy matte paper. I adhered the print to a wood panel using Yes glue. I then applied 5 coats of acrylic matte finish. Finally, I diminished the line drawings with a mixture of the Liquin medium and Titanium white.
Here is the composition line drawing...
Next, I start the underpainting...
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
notic
member
Member #
Joined: 09 Apr 2001
Posts: 441
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:21 pm |
|
|
I'm glad to hear you're doing some oil's again! I believe there's something to gain when alternating between traditional and digital.
Looks like a promising start  |
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:07 am |
|
|
| Awesome,...that sounds like a lot of work. Can't await to see the finished painting. Good luck and keep it up! |
|
| Back to top |
|
Tomasis
member
Member #
Joined: 19 Apr 2002
Posts: 813
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:43 am |
|
|
| I suppose your painting will look like as modern version of Bruegel the Elder :D It'll be exciting to see the finished work from you! |
|
| Back to top |
|
Tzan
member
Member #
Joined: 18 Apr 2003
Posts: 755
Location: Boston MA
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:36 am |
|
|
| eyewoo wrote: |
I figure why spend time creating a dozen small disasters when the same can be learned (or relearned) with one gigantic disaster.
|
Thats the spirit!
I've never heard of someone glueing paper to wood and painting over that. Is this a standard practice now with the large format printers, or have you just invented something?
What type of wood, 1/2" plywood? |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:05 am |
|
|
I don't think I'm the first, but perhaps one of the first at this large size. The glue used. "Yes" glue. is an archival paste-like glue that does not buckle paper, as most glues do. I believe it was initially developed for the book manufacturing industry. I've been using it for awhile and am impressed. Most fully stocked art supply stores carry it, though it is not well known, perhaps because it gets classed into the crafts category.
Plywood... I used 1/4" hi-end plywood with 1 x 3 bracing clamped and glued to the back
Here's the stage it's currently at... just after painting the titanium white with medium. The guidelines are quite faint, as i wanted them to be.
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
Tzan
member
Member #
Joined: 18 Apr 2003
Posts: 755
Location: Boston MA
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:33 am |
|
|
Thanks.
The reason I guessed 1/2" was because without something on the back 1/4" would curve with stuff glued to it. But you got that covered.
When I worked at a trade show company they would make those counters with doors on the back. They apply a laminate (formica) to the exposed side then glue a backing sheet to the inside face to prevent warping. A backing sheet is what the color layer of a laminate is applied to. |
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:30 pm |
|
|
| Oh boy,....now that's really big. I wonder how long this takes...can't await the rusult! |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:33 pm |
|
|
Before starting the oil painting, I'm working out the color schemes digitally on a lo rez image... Here's where I'm at so far with that part of the process.
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:09 pm |
|
|
wow,...so you are painting the whole thing 2 times? I couldn't do that,..zero patience : ) Respect!
by the way...that spidergirl reminds me of brachypelmans stuff : ) |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:49 pm |
|
|
| Max Kulich wrote: |
wow,...so you are painting the whole thing 2 times? I couldn't do that,..zero patience : ) Respect!
by the way...that spidergirl reminds me of brachypelmans stuff : ) |
Well... the first digi paint was done quite fast and small rez... to work out color schemes, etc. The real paint I figure will take weeks, if not several months. Not sure yet.
That spidy lady was from a drawing I did in 1994
brachypelman would have been 17 at the time. I like his work! Maybe I inspired him...
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:51 am |
|
|
Lol.  Yeah, I remember a painting you did with this spider lady and some scifi people shooting at her with bows in a dessert/mountain scene,...
man that was quite some time ago... |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:00 am |
|
|
| Yeah - that's it. wow,...2002...i am feeling the good ol times,...incredible |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:24 am |
|
|
| Fabolous! It looks almoust like watercolor. I think you could even stop here : ) - It already works. |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:36 pm |
|
|
| Max Kulich wrote: |
| Fabolous! It looks almoust like watercolor. I think you could even stop here : ) - It already works. |
Well... being large (4' x 6') and shrunk for the web might give it a finished look... but it really is not...
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
Affected
member
Member #
Joined: 22 Oct 1999
Posts: 1854
Location: Helsinki, Finland
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:36 am |
|
|
| best of luck and perserverance then... Only comment I have a this point is that looking at the colour sketch, I hope you won't be darkening your tones by just adding black as it looks like in the sketch. It gives a kind of lifeless look to the colours. |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:57 am |
|
|
yepsir... Actually, I don't use black oil paint...
...and BTW, I only used it for the car tires in the digital... If black tones rather than dark bowns, greens and blues are not showing on your monitor, it might need some color adjustment
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
Affected
member
Member #
Joined: 22 Oct 1999
Posts: 1854
Location: Helsinki, Finland
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:15 am |
|
|
| heh, I think my monitor is fine. There were places where I felt the colours looked dull: the hood of the car, the tree trunk in the foreground, the preacher's robes etc. But, of course, judgement reserved for the final product... |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:12 am |
|
|
understood. I didn't spend a lot of time on the digital mockup, 'cause that is all it was... a mockup to essentially rough out the color distribution and lighting which is not meant to be dramatic... pretty much a grey overcast day type of lighting with no particularly strong direction.
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
balistic
member
Member #
Joined: 01 Jun 2000
Posts: 2599
Location: Reno, NV, USA
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:09 pm |
|
|
I don't know how you can muster the patience to work traditionally after spending so much time with access to save and undo
Keep us updated, Phil.
_________________
brian.prince|light.comp.paint |
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:27 pm |
|
|
| Wel at least the painting is really "saved" in this case and can't be lost : ) |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:32 pm |
|
|
Max... not so fast...
One of my teachers, Neil Welliver, lost a huge number of his paintings in a fire that burned his studio to the ground... YIKES! |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
|
| Back to top |
|
Max
member
Member #
Joined: 12 Aug 2002
Posts: 3210
Location: MIND
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:44 pm |
|
|
| You're pretty fast actually! Are you finished already? |
|
| Back to top |
|
eyewoo
member
Member #
Joined: 23 Jun 2001
Posts: 2662
Location: Carbondale, CO
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:34 pm |
|
|
Fast... I wish! Working the process in oils for me is about a zillion times slower than digital. I'm still working on the underpainting. Don't have as much time as I'd like to work on it... but even when I do, it is slow going....
Here's where I'm at... not very far from the last upload.
_________________
HonePie.com
tumblr blog
digtal art |
|
| Back to top |
|
apricotmuffins
junior member
Member #
Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 1
Location: UK
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:30 am |
|
|
doing the digital colours roughly first is a fantastic idea that i shall have to take on board. Talk about time saving!
I like how this painting is going, i shall have to check back and see the updates. |
|
| Back to top |
|
watmough
member
Member #
Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 779
Location: Rockland, ME
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:52 pm |
|
|
| Looks fantastic so far Eyewoo...can't wait to see the finish. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
