[jailja]

Greetings again. This is something bluish I came up with. I am quite happy about the outcome, but I think I may have overdone the left side?



Suggestions and comments are welcome.

[x]

very nice, especially the eyes. the only thing that seems to bother me is her left ear. it appears as though it should be on more of an angle to the right, y`know what i mean?

[jailja]

[LoTekK]

I think her nose could use more tweaking for the shape (right now it doesn't appear to be "sitting" properly on her face). Also, her lips and chin/jaw deserve some more love.

Aside from that, I really like the whole circular motif you've got going. Very striking. I wonder, though, if punching up the orange in the eyes might make a nice focal point? Make it more saturated, maybe, for some stronger contrast. Right now the orange reads, but not as strongly as it could. Really nice, overall, though.

About the left side, maybe fade it out more as it approaches the edge of the painting?

[jailja]

Ok, so I did some rework for the pic due to the feedback. Its definetly better now, I think

[LoTekK]

I like what you've done with the background elements at the bottom, and I think the softening of the fadeout on the left is an improvement. I'm not so hot on the face, though. I think what drew me to the face in the original piece was her expression. What I saw in the original face was someone with a heavy heart, world weary, yet with a great deal of dignity and pride. The story that the piece cooked up in my head was of someone who knew she had to leave her homeland, or her loved one, for some greater purpose, not knowing if she would ever be able to return. Think Arwen.

The new face reads more like a teenager imploring "Do we reeeeally have to go, mom?"

As for being afraid to mess things up, that's what layers are for. Throw a blank layer on top, and start painting away. If you really don't like what you've done, just toss the layer and try again.

[jailja]

[Flaskpost]

this looks great! good colors and idea!
and i hope i dont offend you with my paint over, but just to show how i mean.

try to construct the face a bit more. and the part where the eye floats into the hair looks kinda strange.


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[jailja]

[jailja]

There was/is something odd in the left (girl's left) eye's position and shape. Better now? Gah, must have sleep...

[faeklone]

Two things that are really bugging me about her facial structure.

First off the jaw line is a little to the right of where it should be. Draw a line through the middle of her eyes, through the middle of her lips, and you'll see what I mean.

Secondly, she has a Jay Leno chin. If that's what you're looking for, kewl, but if you want her to look more like the idealised female face, I'd reduce the chin to roughly about half of what it currently is.

Other than that the only comments I have is that this is a great blend of full rendering and a painterly like approach. I would suggest adding some more areas like the hair and decide on a couple of features withing the face that you want to fully render. My suggestion would be more towards the eyes and the lips. I would let the rest flow into the background, but still be readable by the viewer.

Other than that this is turning out really well, and unfortunately when pieces are doing that it's hard to find that balance of what you should touch, and what you should leave alone. Hope you can find that balance to allow the picture to be represented in the best possible way.
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[jailja]

[jailja]

Hmm okay. I am getting nowhere with this pic. Done all I can so far, and the more I poke it, the more mistakes i see in it. Blah. Well... I am still quite happy about it. This is like my 7th or 8th digipaint piece, so I am going to let this one go and try something other pics instead. Plenty of other mistakes to be made!

Thank you all for the comments and help!

[Joe84]

nose is too long, due to the slight foreshortening on the face, the space from brow to the end of the nose should be shorter and the space from nose to chin should be the same. However in this piece, the nose is too long and the mouth should be pushed up more. The space of the i think its called the "filthrim" which is the muscle under the nose in your pice is far too long.


I pushed this nose and mouth up in this. tightened the chin, added some pink in the nose and cheeks. Added some form and cast shadows on the face. At the moment your face seems really flat. Try to show that the face is a 3D object by adding such shadows.

im not much of a digital painter but heres a simple paintover i did

[jailja]

First of all, thanks for the effort and advices, Joe84.

While your suggestions are nice and the example is good one (I will use that as a help later for sure), I disagree with you on some points here.

The most important one is the looks of the face. It isn't supposed to be perfectly lighted, nor it isn't supposed to look genuine human. Its supposed to be a nightelf. Nightelf females of World of Warcraft are sleek and slender, tall but strong, with big pretty eyes and big... eh, swords.

The suggestions you have pointed out would make it look more like a... blue human.