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Sekai-Okami junior member
Member # Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:01 pm |
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I was wanting to get a tablet so that I could enhance my art but I know next to nothing about them except for what they do. i was wondering if there was a specific type that was better than some others and what the prices were on them. I suppose it depends on the size. If anyone can help I'd really be greatful.
Sekai Okami
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Jin member
Member # Joined: 09 Jun 2001 Posts: 479 Location: CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:47 pm |
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Wacom tablets are the best.
The tablet sizes indicate the working area only and the entire tablet takes up more space.
6 x 8 inch tablets (again, the working area) are the most popular size. The 6 x 8 inch tablet frame takes up about 13 x 10 inches of space on the desktop. Larger tablets, of course, take up more space on the desktop adn I found that a 9 x 12 inch tablet was way too large to allow me to comfortably work with both my keyboard and tablet side by side.
Wacom Intuos tablets have 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity and support Tilt meaning the brushstroke is affected by the angle at which the stylus (pen) is held in relation to the tablet surface.
Wacom Graphire tablets have 512 levels of pressure sensitivity and do not support Tilt.
Graphires are fine for anyone on a budget and/or just beginning to do digital art. Lots of people use Graphires even when they've been doing digital art for a long time.
Take a look at all of the Wacom tablet models on the Wacom site:
http://www.wacom.com
If you are on a budget, check the Wacom refurbished tablet list. It changes frequently so check it often. To see the list, go to the Wacom America site, click Store at the top of the page, then click Refurbished Tablets on the left side of the page.
Be sure to buy a tablet with a USB connection since that's what todays computers use.
Good luck! You'll love using a tablet!
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Mon member
Member # Joined: 05 Sep 2002 Posts: 593 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:07 pm |
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What Jin said.
Just wanted to add that i couldn't recommend anyone to buy a tablet w�thout no tilt-response. If you're new to digital painting this might sound like bollocks, but I use tilit all the time, for every single piece i make, and it makes the process a million times better. Tilt is the shit. Get an intuos, used and from ebay if you have to. It's just that much better.
Best of luck to you _________________ www.mattiassnygg.com
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B0b member
Member # Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 1807 Location: Sunny Dorset, England
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:29 am |
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can u explain how u use the tilt function Mon? |
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Mon member
Member # Joined: 05 Sep 2002 Posts: 593 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:40 am |
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sure thing bob. Sorry about hijacking the thread
The basic thing with tilt is that you can get a much greater range of expression from a single brush. Just look at the spray-brush in this example. By leaning the stylus in 1a it looks like i'm actually spraying paint on the canvas at an angle. This is a great tool for modeling shapes, like the cylinder. You'd want a hard edge on one side and a soft on the other to get that sense of volume.
in 2a you can see the shape of the Variable Flat brush and how the brush rotates according to how you lean your stylus. Without tilt sensitivity the shape will stay a fixed oval no matter how you lean it (2b).
That's the basics of it. Photoshop has this function but it takes some tweaking to make good use of it. I for one can't live without it, it gives digital painting a whole extra dimension.
Hope this helps a little bit  _________________ www.mattiassnygg.com
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balistic member
Member # Joined: 01 Jun 2000 Posts: 2599 Location: Reno, NV, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:02 am |
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Personally I don't think tilt is essential for a beginner, although I do use it sometimes. If the choice was between a 6x8 Graphire with no tilt and a 4x5 Intuos with tilt, I would go for the Graphire with the bigger drawing area. _________________ brian.prince|light.comp.paint |
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DaveyJJ junior member
Member # Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 15 Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:49 am |
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Have to agree with ballistic on this one. For a beginner, I almost never recommend the (significantly) more expensive Intuos with tilt ... the Graphire is more than adequate for their needs usually. _________________ DaveyJJ <-- WidgetMonkey |
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M@. member
Member # Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 188 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:01 am |
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yeah, tilt rocks! great explanation from Mon. Gives greater freedom, and more personality in brushes. I also agree that 6*8 is pretty optimal. |
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Mikko K member
Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:42 pm |
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Do you use tilt in PS as well? I know Painter and maybe Artrage uses it automatically, I think the brushes rotate when you roll the pen around it's axis etc.
I've never really used it in PS though. I think I didn't get good results with Angle jitter set to tilt when I tried it. Too bad I don't have my wacom at home, should start testing that feature to find out how useful it can be. My experience with tilt has been that it makes the pen function in a more complex manner that I didn't quite like when I tried it.
Any info how to really use it effectively in PS is appreciated!  |
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nafa junior member
Member # Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 47
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:58 pm |
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Tilt will be extremely important if you ever want to use flat brushes. Using the Graphire (no tilt) and Painter, you will have to keep rotating the canvas to get the flat brush strokes in the correct direction.
On the other hand, a larger tablet will be very important if you expect to be using 2 monitors. A 6x8 will be quite cramp for mapping to the combined screen areas. |
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Sekai-Okami junior member
Member # Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:27 pm |
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Thanks for the help everyone ^^. Really appreciate it. |
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saiko junior member
Member # Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:59 am |
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i've seen some people doing amezing stuffs using graphire only and some are coming up with crappy stuffs using intuos 3 and even cintiq! it all depends on the users skills
it's does not matter what ur using...it's how ur using it!
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