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Odds
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ryannotbrian
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here are a couple sketches i've done recently. i haven't been drawing as much as i would like, i need start kicking my ass.  i also should probably invest in a scanner or learn how to take non blurry pictures. ha ha.
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seth1
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ryannotbrian: I really like the first one theres alot of life to it///
Your poses seem to be really stiff could be you or the people...
Hears the progress i made for today
The guys head to big for his own good 
She has alot of problems
This one my last one befor bed.. I think i mdae some progress looks better none scan...
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The only bigger disaster involving a pencil would be if I were to stab myself with it. I can get things in the right places, just not with a pointed stick. ugh. These are mostly done on the telephone, when I should be listening.
How do you do a finished drawing? I draw something, it has many problems. I can do two things- erase or start over. Both have many drawbacks. I really don't know the workflow of people who do finished drawings, like comics and such. Anyone?
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bboy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:47 am |
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Hey spooge,
I'm not sure what you mean by a finished drawing, but I think the usual workflow for a drawing is the gesture, the volumes, and then the rendering light and dark and then highlights accents.
I don't know though, I think the drawings you have posted could be considered finished. I find your sensitivity of line very interesting and your use of shapes. In your own way your describing structure in a very interesting manner. I think the gestures work pretty well in that they're capturing the action of the pose with very simple line and tone.
I think the most interesting thing about your drawing is the efficiency of the line and tone that you use, and how you use certain strokes or shapes to describe a lot. Also it's interesting to see how you're choosing and designing the drawing by the type of line and tone and how much of it your are using for certain parts. Example in the head drawing you have the front of head rendered, but you have the rest of of the back of his head in only line. In some of other drawings you use simple graphic shapes, either in tone or simple outlines of shapes to describe things. I think your drawings are pretty finished, unless by finished you mean more completely rendered? You could always spend some more time working out the darks and lights on it and modelling the surface? |
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isair
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seth: thanks man, i was doing that after finished Bammes' book study and trying new learnt things out to see if i can do that from ref photos instead of Bammes' drawing. and i think your drawings are not bad at all. like the right head study alot. or maybe need a little more confident strokes? stick with it and you shall see a whole lot progress very soon 
ryannotbrian: hey, the last portrait is just great. good expression and done with carefree ease. like it.
spooge demon: wowww  great gesture and expression. the knuckle hand is just awesome. me be fan for long long  for the finished work maybe you can use side of pencil with rubber? think of you are painting a drawing instead of just draw it. no lines no crosshatching. pure tone smaching and rubber is your white. or maybe on toned paper but replace the rubber with a white pencil? i can't do this meself but i've see people doing excellent quality out of these methods. since you have awesome painting skills, the quality you want with a pointed stick is just a media matter? i really don't sure coz i can't paint at all but hope this helps anyway 
odds: well i own nothing at all, dude here is the proof 
cross posting with SOFA http://www.tsofa.com, if you also sofa member, please bear with me. any C&C are welcome.
something really suxx, something ok  why am i so unstable
maybe to much messed with detail and got the mass shape messed up? and hopefully, how can one achieve likeness, anyway? i always draw another person out of one person anyone help me out, please? please don't worry bout the size, all imgs conpressed to death already should be load in seconds and sorry bout the crap attack again
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Odds
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edit; the kitties are from life
some studies... |
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imager777
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Since this thread surfaced again, I guess I'll post something in it. This was posted on SOFA as well.
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ryannotbrian
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:56 am |
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thanks isair and seth!!
seth, i see what you mean about the stiffness, im not sure if its me or the model, although i can't imagine a model sitting stiff for too long. i'll definitly keep an eye open for that in the future.
here is a page non life drawing stuff i was messing around with over the weekend.
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isair
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odd: that sleeping cat is cute clean lines and suttle furs. i always have problems with fur-ball-thingy
drawing n' posting i'm focusing on portrait for this week. looking bad so far.
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seth1
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isair: Very nice man. The way you render out the light and your pencil strokes works well.
imager777: Love your lines nice and tight...
Odds: You improve with every post!
Crop of bigger drawing...
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buzzz3d
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Odds: Great work on those cat drawings
Isair: I like your hatching, good wirk on the heads and hands.
Imager777: I like that Komodo dragon, very clean lines.
Spooge: Hope you'll post more despite your pointed-stick feelings
Those hands and gesture drawings show a great sense of weight.
I read somewhere that the purpose of a bad line is to show where the good line should go. If you erase and start over again, you'll probable end up making the same mistake again. Makes some sense I guess.
Seth1: Big props to you too for keeping this thread going.
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Hi... here's some sketches and life drawings from the past couple mos... Spooge .. I love yo' stuff!? Do you do most of the figure stuff out of your head or is it from life studies? ..
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hey spooge,
since i am neither a comic-esque perfect draftsman yet nor sure about i am on "the right way" to get one, i can just give you these links i found instead of being daniel larusso trying to teach mr miyagy:
http://www.geocities.com/jerotest/ElektraTutorial.htm
http://groups.msn.com/travischarest/basictrainingpainting.msnw
i wonder why you ask this question cause i think you know how guys like drew struzan, syd mead, rockwell etc. work...
sometime ago i found a video about alex ross and how he works. he had his pencil in the right, and the photo in the left hand...
and i think he read and copied every loomis-book he could find.
here's an interesting quote i found at your beloved site "artrenewal" :
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While there is logic to your assertion, let me quote a passage from the Introductory notes of Gammell's Boston Painters.
Sargent delighted in the transient aspects...the passing expression of a face, the revealing gesture which signalizes a personality ... matters which have baffled the most dextrous painters often elicited miracles from that nimble brush. But ... on his visits to Joseph DeCamp's studio he used to linger over the Bostonian's most highly finished heads, muttering, "I don't see how you carry them so far without losing them. When I try to push them I always lose them" (meaning "lose the overall effect").
Sargent was definitely able to render amazing effects in the form of a sketch or "loosely" painted images, in fact he might be said to be one of the standard bearers of the loosenes you are extolling. But apparently he was unable to push them to the finish he saw in a DeCamp. For some artists looseness might be a sign of maturity and experience. For many, it is a means to cover a mulitude of drawing problems. These artists could no more "push them" to a successful conclusion than could Sargent.
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http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2003/Best_of_ARC/best1.asp?msg=18&forumID=4
could it be, that you not only gained much of the admirable advantages of sargent by copiing some of his works, but also took his "weaknesses" with you?
as much as i know from you, sargent was your earliest and largest influence. perhaps you have to get "a bit sargent" outta your head and let another one in with a more finished style by copiing some of his works/reading his strokes/archieving his feel...?
um, i think i really cannot tell you anything you don't know by yourself already, so um, i better hide know...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:41 pm |
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Working on shading technique... anatomy is a little wacky.
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SPOOGE...i know youve done so many figure drawings...do you ever get to a point where the figure drawing sessions just become useless and boring?..
ISAIR....thats a lot of friggin faces...reference?..
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seth1
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the_insider: LEts see some drawings!
StylesDavis: Drawings:)
buzzz3d:Thanks man
Loomis studys and horse studys! There bad, got to practice more..
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buzzz3d
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Where is everybody?
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seth1
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did everyone just decide to leave this planet?...
here ya go seth....sorry for the delay...
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mo' mo' mo'....slow night
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the_insider: Theres some kick ass figure studys there man. I really think the 5th figure study shows alot of emotion and confusion in the person.. I am also really digging the cross hatchin on some of those peoples heads to...
KEEEP up the GREAT work.....
Study of statue. I need to go do more now...
Pencil crayon
UGlY miss lead proportions and rendering with bic pen
Another really quick one...
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u guys are getting dangerous with your drawing
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I know it's been a really long time since I don't check this thread at all, but...
isair: are some of those from Equilibrium?? That's such a badass movie! In some sense I think the matrix screwed it up when they ripped from that scene...
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blah blah, these are some accumulated works (some good some bad), since I don't have much time to draw apart from schoolwork (not that I do it anyway), but I've been making a conscious effort to sketch and draw more in my free time this year, and will be trying out more mediums since I'm still not very exposed to the full range of possibilities, yea...
they're either doodles in class, or faces from magazines or just.. whateverthings...
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| Spooge: Somebody told me to use tracing paper and put it over the first drawing and than trace it and correct the misstakes. |
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Great stuff guys!
some recent sketchbook pages....
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nice matt!
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nice drawings!
here are my legs and feet and shirt...
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