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Liser Studios
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:55 pm     Reply with quote
it sucks
i mean, come on... girls always complain that they "want a nice sweet guy" and "don't care so much about looks."
but the truth is, they care most about looks. They like the superstar athletes and the lead singers of bands, or those A&F models.
I mean, when was the last time you heard a lady say "oh my gosh, Picasso is so hot!"
Then they complain that the guys they have are idiots.
Most artists, from what I can tell, are the more "romantic type"
They say they want romantic guys, not these idiots, but they keep goin after the idiots and forgetting about us! lol
Of course I'm talkin from experience here. I dated this one girl (well, the only girl i ever dated) and I always did those nice little "sweet things" for her (no weird ideas there Flat) like gettin her flowers, drawing portraits for her, gettin her stuffed animals out of the blue, just doing stuff for no reason, ya know? And then she of course says "i'm more of a friend."
And of course she liked her ex-b/f for months after they broke up (that was about 2 years ago), meanwhile he was making around with her best friends all the time, and she STILL liked him?! What's up with that?
lol, sorry for the ramble, i'm just sick of being the type of guy that girls complain they want, and I'm there, and they say "oh, you're more of a friend" while they're goin for some guy who gets drunk every night and beats his girlfriends.
Girls are weird.
So, anyone else have a similiar experience?
oh, and just so you know that i'm not some big huge fat 400 pounder

i don't know, i don't think i'm THAT ugly, so that's not the problem.

What's up with girls? lol Maybe you older guys who have experienced life can fill me in.

[ April 14, 2002: Message edited by: Liser Studios ]
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:00 pm     Reply with quote
hmm yes girls are very strange... I can never figure them out. MAby you start employing some of Flats tactics
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:10 pm     Reply with quote
I think what girls are looking for the most is STYLE. Not as in clothes, but as in lifestyle.

I think when somebody takes a picture of you you should either smile even broader, or not at all. Confidence is the word man. You look lame whenever you wonder whether you look lame or not (This does not apply to the pictures you posted, mind you !). That's a good general rule my sister once told me. Be confident in what you do, and if you can't be confident in it, well, then there's likely something wrong with it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:14 pm     Reply with quote
I've Got's myself a hottie.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:28 pm     Reply with quote
Better Post:

People are stupid.


Actually, I guess that wasn't really a better post...Hmmm...

Ok:

The Majority of the people on this earth are extremely shallow with the girl/boy ratio bending 2:1...It's not exactly their fault for being that way...cause when you're born you know nothing...but it's not exaclty not their fault for continuing to do it.

The first boy a girl will find attraction to will usually be just like her father... It will either be "daddy complex" where she feels safe with him or it will be the kind of relationship where she yells, beats, and takes out her issues she has with her father out on this boy...

Same thing goes for guys...just 2:1 ratio(more girls than guys).

Girls are definately more superficial than guys...sure, a lot of guys are pretty concerned to look their best always...but the majority of guys don't care all too much. Girls on the other hand, even if they like you, will find one thing that bugs them and will not go out with you just because, "I don't like the back of his hair...it's too...i dunno...and it just bugs me to no end."(actual comment).

I don't see why girls feel the need to go into abusive relationships...[Insert actual girl comment to this: "HEY, I didn't know he was going to do that when I first went out with him, he's a nice guy, and he treated me good."] Yeah...and after he beat the crap out of you, you felt the need to go right back. [Insert actual girl comment: "Shut up..."] Yeah.

Girls like tough guys. Tough guys like beating things up. girls don't realize that beating things up INCLUDES THEM.

Sure...not all tough guys beat girls up...but they definately get the chicks.

Plus...if the girl you want goes out with those guys...she's not a good girl to be around...because she'll be a bitch x10 + more and you don't wanna know.


Finding the right girl is like trying to find your car keys...stop looking for them and you'll find them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:44 pm     Reply with quote
uhhhh, not true, Lunatique fill his meat in alot of hot chick.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:05 pm     Reply with quote
Giant Hamster> i think you're right. in fact, you are right.
it's crap though. lol
the girl i like, well i dated her for a year and 4 months (pretty good for a first g/f ever, eh.). Well, she hates her dad, mainly because he doesn't give two craps about her, and he's also an alcaholic.
Now I know I cared about her and what she did; I never missed any of her shows (she's a dancer and twirler), and I've never drank in my life. Of course she says she likes that, but maybe I'm just not enough like her dad, eh?
Ah, I guess I should just let her have some drunken idiot, and then why she's crying and wondering why her husband sits at home on his arse spending all his 20 dollar paycheck on booze, and she'll wonder why she had to end up so unhappy; and i'll be an art director at industrial light and magic, with a hot woman and makin lots of moneeyy!
well, maybe not that last part lol
but yeah, that guy that i said she liked for months after they broke up was a depressed guy who didn't care anything about her. Never went to go see her dancing competitions, any time she talked about her routines and whatnot he just didn't care and changed the subject... but at least he wasn't an alcaholic, just a complete idiot.
i'm just so sick of girls saying "i see you as more of a friend." They're just so stupid, it's incredible. "Hey, he's what I complain I don't have, so I'll just go for that guy who cheats on me, beats me, and spends all his money on beer!"
Stupid stupid people.
lol, sorry, i'm rambliing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:17 pm     Reply with quote
"Finding the right girl is like trying to find your car keys...stop looking for them and you'll find them."

Take note of this!! This is so true its not funny.

jake
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:25 pm     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by MoleculeMan:
"Finding the right girl is like trying to find your car keys...stop looking for them and you'll find them."

Take note of this!! This is so true its not funny.

jake



yeah... i guess so. my brother found his g/f by bumping into her when he was walkin out of the bathroom. the weird thing is, he was in the bathroom and praying to god for someone there, at least a friend (he just transfered from another college, and in the spring semester)... and when he walked out he just bumped into her and they started talking. Now they've been dating for well over a year. Weird, eh?!
Why doesn't god let me bump into a girl? maybe i'll just start walkin around and start bumping into every girl I see! hahahaha! j/k
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:29 pm     Reply with quote
BTW dont worry about finding GF right now. But if you cant find one in your late 20-ies, THEN worry! HAHA, i dont have GF and look at how secksy i am:



PS: i dont suggest you pray to god at public bathrooms, especially if you pray to find someone.. a friend there (you might bump into someone like Flat and then you're dead meat)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:40 pm     Reply with quote
Shizo is 20x more sexy than you, ahaha



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:51 pm     Reply with quote
ehehehe.. this is a joke, i hope Derek shuts up his face, that gringo
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:53 pm     Reply with quote
/me hides in crate
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:54 pm     Reply with quote
Whatever you do don't go in to pity mode. Don't feel bad for yourself things don't work out sometimes, especially when you are young. Don't think that you are going to marry every girlfriend you have, and don't rate your relationship by the amount of time you went out. It isn't a good indicator of anything. IMHO

And just one question for you- did you go to all of her shows because you really truly wanted to go to all of her shows or did you go so you could say you have went to all of her shows?

Sorry if it was harsh but I was in the same positition as you and I needed a kick in the butt. As it goes for artists and girls, everyone just needs to be their self there are going to be girls who like you for who you are. I wish you much luck though because it seems like you really like this girl, try to distance yourself from what you had and see if maybe you could make a more FUN relationship with someone else.

"The relationship guru" -PZ-
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 6:20 pm     Reply with quote
ah, i go into pity mode quite a bit... i try not to though.
i went to her shows because i actually liked going. it's interesting. although i must admit, the first time i went to go see one, i wasn't too excited, but i ended up liking it a lot more than i thought i would.
and yeah, i really liked her. i think that if there's a chance that we go back out, i will; but i guess i should just look (or wait) for someone else.

oh, btw there Derek, i don't like guys
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:46 pm     Reply with quote
It's because the Math majors get all the chicks, and don't leave none for all you art fags.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 8:27 pm     Reply with quote
I dunno.. the girl Im marryin' is pretty darn hot. Im a total romantic type. I seem to know all the right girls tho most of the girls I know truly dislike the jock types.

besides none of us could ever compare to the secksyness of Shizo

this thread has Flat written all over it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:49 am     Reply with quote
Before I met my girl I always had all these theories and stuff. And I would pine over girls for months wondering if she liked me or why she didn't and shit like that.

It's all useless! Once you find someone you do and you will know it right away.
Better work on yourself. Be satisfied with yourself first...be confident..no..proud of yourself. Be the nice guy you are and don't be afraid of being yourself.

You are saying that all the girls go for the hulky type. Well thats just not true. You are just going for the wrong girl then.
I happen to know tons of girls that are just disgusted by the type of guy you just described.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:53 am     Reply with quote
Fuck 'em all to death.

When you go in wanting to please a girl, it's a big warning sign. Who wants anything that easy? We're not talking about a job interview where your enthusiasm and blatant sucking up will help; you need to NOT show up at that interview. Then stop the guy (continuing the metaphor) at his car an hour before he goes home, and tell him you would have shown up but you were too busy blowing off other interviews, baby, cuz you be the ONLY one for me. True dat.

Jesus fucking Christ. Women are so stupid.

The problem with smart girls is they're bombarded by nice guys. You see a sweet lolita, and yes, if you're inspired enough to say "hello" to her, don't you think two dozen nerds before you have tried? Piss on her shoes. Just be sure to convey that every asshole maneuver is intentional and not hormonal -- that's where they pick up the scent. For some reason, women think that Alpha males are big and dumb on purpose, and they'll flower into loving creatures in private. Which they do -- but THAT'S the part they're faking!

It's sickening, but check this out: Get on a bus (with friends), zero in on The Girl, and remark loudly to your friends that she's hot and sexy and damn, damn, damn. This is an orchestrated move. Your friends must laugh with you -- that's her indicator that, yes, you are a confident and humorous fellow. Then break from them immediately when she gets off the bus and apologise profusely for how big a jerk you/they are. She'll ooze her goddamned phone number out.

Just goes to show you.

Stupid fucking women. >
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:54 am     Reply with quote
I'm just joking, you know.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 3:15 am     Reply with quote
Yeah, yeah! Fuck 'em, fuck 'em!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 4:20 am     Reply with quote
I saw a woman on the internet once. She was purty.

Hehhehhehheh...bewbs... hehhehhehhehheh
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 5:59 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Liser Studios:
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I mean, when was the last time you heard a lady say "oh my gosh, Picasso is so hot!"
QB]


Bwahahahahha!!! Do you even realize that Picasso was one of the most famous womanizers in history? He had chicks in the palm of his hands!!

Look, nothing is as simple or as mysterious as you think. I constantly hear things like, "I don't understand women," or "Why do guys...blah blah" and it makes me laugh because it doesn't have to be that confusing.

First of all, for every nice guy that gets rejected by girls, there's a nice girl getting hurt by guys. You just have to find each other.

Now, it's true women say they want a romantic guy, but you are forgetting something. They want you to be sweet and caring, but they also want you to be exciting and sexy too. If all you do is give flowers and write poetry, that might not be enough. She might not show it, but believe me, she secretly wishes that you were more exciting. Learn how to excite, seduce, surprise, and be imaginative, confident, and naughty. You can't just be romantic, because that's boring.

Think of it this way:

Would you pick a girl who's really nice, romantic, and sweet, or would you pick a girl that's nice, romantic, sweet, sexy, seductive, exciting, and beautiful?

Well, I bet you picked the latter; same thing with women. They want that guy from the romance novel--strong, masculine, gorgeous, yet sensitive, romantic, and sweet. And of course, they WANT you to be naughty, because they find that exciting.

Problem is, women often confuse a jerk with someone who is naughty. There's a huge difference. A jerk is a total asshole that doesn't care about how a girl feels. A naughty guy is a nice guy that knows how to excite.

Why women love bad boys:

Women have this weird idea that they can tame a bad boy. They LOVE the idea that this bad boy will become good just for her. They find bad boys exciting because they are so confident(women often confuse arrogance/insensitivity with confidence). So, bad boy gets the girl, and the girl now wants to see the sensitive, caring part of this bad boy, except he is incapable of being nice, so she keeps trying, hoping that she could change him. Now, some women are smart enough to leave after they realize this bad boy is just a jerk, nothing more, while other women will keep trying. If you want to understand in detail why this happens, go get a book titled "Women That Love Too Much." It is a book that does case studies of women that gets hurt over and over, but can't leave these bad boys. It's almost like a disease, and the book analyzes the symptoms and offers the cures.

Man, I need to stop here, because I could write a whole book on this topic.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:01 am     Reply with quote
I think these things depend quite much on peoples personalities. I read about a personality test called MBTI, which splits peoples personalities into 16 categories. Things that the test measures are introvert vs extrovert, intuative vs. sensing, feeling vs. thinking and perceiving vs. judging.

There were some statistics of how much people who take the test go into which category and the rarest values of the test were introvert, intuative, feeling, perceiving. (which is by the way exactly my personality type according to the test) I think most artist would get intuative result rather than sensing, so we don't necessarily get along so well with the majority of people.

There are a few MBTI tests in the net also, here is a link for one of them.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 8:18 am     Reply with quote
I don't know if this advice is worth the screen space it appears on but:

I am under the impression that for the most part most of those that post here are between the ages of mid-teens to early twenties.

My advice to you if you fall into this range is to just relax. Things get much easier soon enough no matter what you look like. Women in general aren't stupid or evil, that's simply frustration talking. You probably just aren't at the point in your life where women view you as being an attractive mate. All the macho, cool, jock types that had girlfriends seemingly out of nursery school did so by acting older and more "male" than you did at the time. Size and an aggressive / confident attitude can give the impression of a mature and developed male. This is what women want and it makes sense. The good news is ----> You get that with age, plain and simple.


Don't let some girl that you only talked to a few times define "girls" for you. Just kick back and keep doing what you are doing, try to get out with friends from time to time and don't sweat it if girls aren't giving you the time of day just yet. They will, just wait for it.

Once you hit your mid-twenties a lot of what you are dealing with now will fall away to the side. Life has a nice way of sifting out some of the sludge that we all faced back in highschool and making certain things simpler later on.

Remember all of those girls that everyone was for crazy in your final/last year? Well the sad truth of it is that they most likely peaked in highschool and really won't matter to you whatsoever in a few years. The girls that you will meet in your mid-20's are the ones that were too interested in other things in life to spend all their time on parties and clothes. These are the women that you want to spend your lives with. Trust me.

There is someone out there for you, you just need to be patient and do your own thing. If you start to feel restless then take a year and go travel as far away as you can afford. Its a good way to get the hell away from mom and dad for a while and you have a good chance of meeting someone.

Take it easy.
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I REALIZED MY NAME HAS BEEN MENTIONED FOR LIKE THREE OR MORE TIMES IN ONE SINGLE THREAD. THANK YUO FOR YUOR ATTENTI0N.

back to teh topic.

well, kid, I'm gonna write a "Female Usage" manual and put it on my web site next time I update it (which will probably take some months 'coz I'm dang lazy). until then here are some hints especially for you. So listen up.



Just like everything, secksual attraction is a matter of style and yours, well, capable of development. Pretend to be god's gift to the female world and always remember, respect iz everything. Be the tough motherfucker those tasty hos are having wet dreams of. Don't be the small not-so-masculin lookin' boy who's taking a rest in the central park from playing hide & seek with his friends when mom came along to make some cute pictures to show off at the daily coffee klatsch.

And what about the other part of your picture, that where you're leaning against a tree? C'mon, poses like that may be appropriate for gurls who want to look lascivious and tell 'em boyz with their body language something like "Hey, honey, this tree could be you". You know. You could only enhance the akwardness of your pose by
clutching the trunk with your legs and sucking your forefinger (at the same time). DANG, I mean, you're holding your hand against your waist while leaning against that tree! Can you get any more FEMALE? Are you positively sure about your sexuality, dude?

Think about it. Just my 2 cents.

Oh, I forgot to mention how to do it right. Quick hint: USE ALCOHOL. No, not for you, but for teh hos. k thnx bye

:::NO OFFENSE INTENDED, DAMNIT:::
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here we go.
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BTW.

Extreme sexual frustration and neurosis are excellent motivators to "create" things, you just have to learn to harness the power!

*initiates hyper-destructo-neurosis-beam and some wierd picture materializes out of thin air*

hmm...damnit
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 10:28 am     Reply with quote
Lister-
1. There is a reason that the whole dating thing is hard. You want to find 'the one', the one you want/can live with forever.
2. I don't understand women, and I don't expect women to understand me. I just want us both to try to understand eachother.
3. Both Men and Women wake up one day and essentially grow up. At the sametime we are animals and have a tendency to act like them. The difference we have the ability to change that.
4. My rule is Date as many as you can. If they don't end up as girlfriends, they could be just friends (friends have friends you know)
5. Oh yeah, if dating more than one, be honest.

On that note why is it that Women automatically think after say 2-3 dates that you are an exclusie item? Even if there has been nothing said or done. I believe in try every oppertunity that presents itself. As in say you have had one or two occasional dates with one person, and a Second one or third one persents itself. I would have one or two dates with each. Reason being girl one: girl one like her but unsure of her feelings and if I want something long term. Now by one or two dates you know if there is a even remote chance that something is there. Now while dating girl one still figuring things out, I have checked out two and three, to see if they are better matchs for me. Kinda watching a game(not of your favorite team, because there would be some kind of commitment there) on tv, and switching to the sports channel for the scores of the other games. What is wrong with that?

Now unfortunatly girl one and girl two have a mutual friend (might I say is not in either realationship and therefore not able to dictate where the relationship is at). girl two is told about girl one. Girl two mad. Girl one, disappointed that things were not in her 'favor'. Girl 3 was out of picture by now. I upset because Girl 2, thought we were exclusive already (three dates). I was upset that girls two and one were both leaving the city for over a year, with in a few days of each other. Girl one left on okay/friends terms. And Girl two still mad. Here I am over a year later typing this because I really miss girl two, and have not dated since. Sad really.

ps I went over to girl two's house dressed as a knight, with 150$ in cocolates and a Huge sorry message on the lawn. Even that didn't get me out of the dungen.

Moral of the story: When it rains, it pours. Just don't put out too many pails.

JA
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