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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:45 am     Reply with quote
602........well,just call it zhuzhu's page......... Shocked
hei Matthew!where are you guy?some digital?hehe Twisted Evil
sometimes it worths to...
though bad of portrait....
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no ref.....just enjoy the fun of blocking shapes(however in fengzhu'DVD he always announces it as SHARP........)
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:26 am     Reply with quote
thanks fred!

book cover sketch-not chosen

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:07 am     Reply with quote
you can clearly see why they rejected the cover Wink
awesome mood... very 19th century... it reminded me of these two paintings



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:57 am     Reply with quote
yeez guys the art world is fucked up.

We had an art exhibition that started a week ago and one of those chosen for a scholarship was a girl who during a previous project just was sitting around and doing nothing, but still they gave her that scholarship with the statement that she had been working so hard and accomplished a lot with her latest works, wtf? I guess she was complaining a lot and that seems to be a keyword within the art industry, complain or brag all that u can and everyone will think you are the real deal.
And then we have those who think they are all that, they are during the exhibit talking about how good the result became with their latest painting and everyone is taking their word for it. -"oh yea this guy must be really good and he knows what he is talking about".

The higher education is starting to become crap aswell, I did attempt for that royal academy and some other schools but nowadays there seems to be a system based on how many times you apply, where quality won't matter. I actually thought I had the chance to get granted for at least one of the schools but as I mentioned previously it doesn't matter, unless you haven't applied many times before u are screwed. And I wouldn't be surprised either that if you are too good they will not grant you, cause u know, then u are not modern good enough.

U know guys when I started this art thing and joined here in sijun I had a totally different and naive view about art in general. I thought that the old methods and ways of painting still was approved and that when u reached that level of old mastery u would be considered good as an artist, now I know that it is a lot of elements which makes for a good artist. Anyway. during the years and during my two years in the art-school I think I actually learned a few things about creativity. But creativity won't take you that far and most of the time it isn't about the art that takes the artist somewhere, it is the all-around stuff that seems to matter more. The bragging or the complaining of the mister know it all people who knows everyone, it is a closed group of people and so it will continue to be I believe.

Oh maan I am whining away here but it felt good to write something about this and damn some things are bugging me for sure.
Not sure illustration would be the deal for me, maybe an Atelier or decorative painting cause I am all about texture and anatomy nowadays.

qinmenfei, a quick one for you dude. Smile


ok I better hide after this, I might get killed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:27 am     Reply with quote
mat, just follow your path, and according to the few elements i know from you, there will not be any failure.
that piece is amazing. i just love it.
the only reason why you might get killed is because you're improving. Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:52 am     Reply with quote
it's very easy to get discouraged... god knows there's enough galleries that show complete garbage, but once in a while, you get to see something that knocks your socks off... work that just blows you away and most importantly keeps you going... then and there you see a little light at the end of the tunnel and you realize, "well the majority of the art world is f'ed up, but this one experience makes it all worth it."

in my case, you guys provided that for me... the work that you're doing is beyond my defintion of cool... i don't even understand how the hell you do it... i'm just a regular painter, who has been fortunate enough to make a good living doing solely that... painting. and not just painting, but doing it somewhat traditionally which seems almost like a curse... but hey! i'm 27, married, painting every single day... all in all very very happy.

deciding that art is going to be your life is not an easy decision... but if it works out, if you work like hell, it's all worth it...suddenly you find yourself with dirty brushes in one hand, looking at forums like this and feeling like a friggin' caveman.... but a motivated, inspired and willing to do some kick ass paintings caveman. that's the beauty of art...
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:38 am     Reply with quote
great work guys

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 11:04 am     Reply with quote
The ground crew are on strike...



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:24 pm     Reply with quote
Simply amazing SUmmer Pudding. I am awed by your talent... some day I'll get there. If you added the ground crew, of course it would really activate this peice... but without them... it has the fealing of an abandoned set in hollywood.

Nothing to post and I'm sorry for that, but Summers work is stellar enough for me to cheat.

Mathew, Don't worry about it man. I know the feeling. I go to the most pretentious school on the planet and I'm seriously about to drop out. its disgusting. For me, I wish I would have gone to SF acadamy of art instead or la art center. I don't know. I sort of cheated myself by buying into the idea that going to a "fine art" school would give me an edge or something.. but instead they put me down for being and illustrator (or at least trying to be) and tell me that its "not art".... Very frustrating indeed. and to see the loud mouthed artists who do little more than splash paint on a canvas now and again get scholarships and recognition makes me realize how lost the "fine art" world really is. I honestly believe that the entertainment artists are the future. I see the most amazing and talented artists right here on this thread....

It is said that "the fool never prevails over virtue" and that "a fool rises by means of others."

I scoff at the "fine art" world.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:55 pm     Reply with quote
Octavian, Thanks for the hint. Another color on the feet would have been miles better in retrospect.

Summer Pudding: Excellent work! The groundcrew would be a nice addition indeed. And some hoses and stuff maybe.


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:29 pm     Reply with quote
octavian> thanks! ur work has a really ancient feel to it. and i love that. really great work. keep it up!
retro> nice.
Nicolas> very nice anatomy. and great colors.
spooge> awesome as always. thansk for inspiring us all!
matthew> beautiful work! i know what u mean with all that u've said. and i agree. this modern art stuff kinda gets me mad. wish the world would appreciate the old masters a bit more Smile .

from ref. about 25 mins
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:34 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:40 pm     Reply with quote
Crew on strike haha That was a good one Very Happy

retro, to me it looks like you have better control with traditional.. you know how this stuff works, stroke that is few millimeters off can mean the difference between functional and nonfunctional, beautiful and hideous. I personally have much better line control with pencil than Wacom. Just my two cents.

Nice warriors octavian!

Matthew, love that blue palette, very striking!


I thought these guys in Shark Tale were interesting lighting-wise:


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:25 pm     Reply with quote
retro,same thing with me,i think that we never appreciate what we are best at.
nicolas,that is really nice,and your sight is impressive as hell.
spooge,GODDAMN! that is soo great,i am in awe,really just fantastic.(made me think of Leighton/Alma-tadema)
Matthew!!!! that is spectacular! listen to Sparth,he knows what hes talking about!
summer pudding,great!
annisahmad,good stuff.
octavian,looked like spam eggs,sausage,and spam on that last one!
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:18 pm     Reply with quote
Ahhhhhh!, Im not getting it guys why do people texture there art to shit.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:57 am     Reply with quote
bg & watmouth: i guess you're both right... digital has a strong attraction to me, but maybe i'm just becoming lazy (taking the easel outside), also i probably have little to say considering subject matter..

nicolas: welcome around! i like that sketch of your wife, also looked at your site, wow. one question though: are those paintings all low contrast or are just the photos ?
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:16 am     Reply with quote
Nicholas, welcome, nice work you do. It was a sketch, so the ho would have gone away. I would be fun to get a 10 ft canvas roll and do something like that for real, it might take 6 months. Ugh. Glad the Salon isn�t between me and lunch anymore.

Matthew, it can only bother you if you want their attention and approval. You will never get it, so don�t bother. The world is full of people who see things differently; you just have to find the micro-climate that has values similar to yours. Like here! It is tough when you need their approval to continue or for scholarship (I tried to get a scholarship at school. It was pretty easy, over half of the people who applied got full or partial scholarships. I got a rock.) but just get through it and don�t let it affect your motivation or work. Would you paint if you were the only person on earth and nobody would ever see what you do? Good! Continue�

Annisahmad, watmough, thanks! Watmough, how are you doing the tree branches in that last one? Looks very sharp.

Retro, that WC you did a few pages back was really nice. Maybe work at higher rez digitally?

Ode de watmough/pudding

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:44 am     Reply with quote
Hey Matthew, we're all praise junkies here, and it hurts when your work is dismissed or ignored. We're all in the same boat y'know?

And anyway, would you like to be a part of a course, where your own aesthetic sensibilities were totally out of of sync with those of your fellow pupils and the tutors?

This place is better than any art school, and it's free!

Pud'

cheers fellas, glad you liked that last one.

PS: ode de pudding spooge? Aw shucks.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 5:44 am     Reply with quote
Matthew>>> Shocked
Mr.Demon>>> Shocked
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just want to see someone to paint classic oil painting.....from the beginning to the end,see it whole......
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:01 am     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:09 am     Reply with quote
I really love you guys and many thanks for your kind comments, keeps me going and keeps me motivated.
Think I am still naive when it comes to certain things so I hope I can grow more understanding in the future, I will never stop to paint though cause I love everything regarding the creating process.

Thanks again everyone, this one is for all of you. Smile
quite similar to those cathedral pieces I used to do, think I am out of sync with the digital.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:22 am     Reply with quote
Nicol�s Uribe wrote:
a quick one of my wife...



OMIGOD Nicolas! I've seen plenty of digital kids venturing to the traditional painting forums, but I don't think I've ever seen a tradtional painter venture into a digital one! Good to see you here bro!

BTW, you emailed me awhile ago about the Canon 20D, and I answered your email, but since you never replied, I assumed you never got it?

Everyone - if you guys have never seen his paintings, go to his site. He does some really nice oil paintings.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:31 am     Reply with quote
Shait! I've been away for too long and I've missed the ride-

Not something to consolate for my long absence. Priest fan "art".
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:47 am     Reply with quote
(tipping over the wagon with this one)Hey Matthew, looooser!... nah im kidding.. I applied for those schools both this year and last year.. 11 applications in total.. 11rejections =)... man swedish schools.. always screwing with your head... but to be honest.. i kinda like it.. because i know things that end up being soo damn "right" in the end have to go through a phase of being sooo "wrong" at first Wink... i dont consider what i do to be Art though... yet.

Awell.. dont get down on your knees just yet.. (you know they want you too).. stand proud and keep doing what your doing.. however.. its always a good idea to question yourself and your work once in a while.. keep it real.

raah... im fucking swedish school.. Im going to AAU in san francisco this fall instead... u should look up some art schools in other countries.. the situation is not like this in every country.. with swedish education being free etc. its damn hard getting into these schools without whoring.

oh and hella nice page guys!


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:51 am     Reply with quote
it's been too long since I've posted in here.

not a speedpaint really, but a small section from a production illustration:

can't divulge any more of it, unfortunately. I feel like I'm slowly figuring out where to lose my edges.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:37 am     Reply with quote
RasselTassel, I feel with you me painting brother and I much appreciate your words, yea they do screw with your head and I have been feeling brainwashed somehow lately. Do I really wanna paint like that? And then again Illustration is to conservative, I wish there would be a middle ground somewhere.
Maybe one of those ateliers would be something, at least if you keep in mind what you are doing, but maybe brainwashing appears there too.

Let me know how the AAU turns out, I have also been thinking about study abroad but damn it is expensive and that is what has been holding me back concerning that, me so poor. Crying or Very sad

holy sweet yesus I suck, back to traditional.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:52 am     Reply with quote
matthew : just get rid of the " naive " side. You're working hard. Commitment to your craft and where you want to go with it is all good, but you'll have to deal with the money/promotion/image no matter what, if you want to make this your job. Anyway, find your balance between your own motivation and the biz side.
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posting some life sketches, This is how i do my "speedpainting" at the mo




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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:28 am     Reply with quote
Really like that one RasselTassel,

Last pages have been stunning.


hmmm

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:35 am     Reply with quote
Hi people! The guy that have not been noticed to be missing is back.
People have been improving alot, as expected.

I noticed after it was finished that it's rather desaturated.
Well, next time better.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 10:38 am     Reply with quote
beat... nice drawings...
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