[The Real Mark]

I thought the movie was AWESOME! Special Effects were amazing and the lead on from the clone wars cartoon was a nice touch. Probably my most favourite movie of the 6 so far, but I'll have to watch it a few times to settle it into my brain and then see how it compares with the others. I wish I was an extra in the movie. That would've been an experience...

One Part I didn't like was when Obi-wan said something like "Wait a minute. We're smarter than this!" Just felt a little forced. R2 was the most useful out of the 3 movies and was quite the crack up. If only I hadn't have had that Frozen coke within the first 5 minutes of the movie...

How many others have seen it? Did everyone enjoy it?

[blck_productions]

Was just about to post the same thing.
Awesome...is the word to describe it. Amazing FX. Good character-development.
Heart-pymping-action sequences, great artwork, design...NIce dialogues and some really good lines in the light of the previous trilogy. Man I can't believe it's all over now. I got to see this one again in the theather and then again I think. The force is really really strong in this one. Heartbraking in the end. Now even the chilldish Phantom Menace makes sence, it's so colorfull and joyfull because everything was in semi-peace in the republic, clone wars was a bit darker. Revenge of the Sith is really dark especially in the end...Man it won't leave me alone. Now I'm officially a fan. Must look at 4,5,6 to look differently at darth vader.
I really really loved it and won't stop praising it...even if it is such a commercial product... A must have seen for everyone on these forums.
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[Sumaleth]

Probably the best looking film to date. And they just about nailed Yoda this time.

(you just know Lucas is going to want to redo all the effects for 4/5/6 again...)

Though they still can't make digital humans move realistically.

It was certainly a lot better than ep1 and ep2. Very tough to compare it with the original trilogy (it's a very different type of film), but it's at least comparable with Jedi.

Negatives? While the dialogue is better than ep1/ep2, a lot of it is still pretty awful. It worked in the original trilogy, which had that rough, "realistic" edge to them, but hasn't worked in these new smooth-as-silk films. It's too much like bad soap-opera.

I also felt the second half of the film wasn't as good as the first half. By half way almost all the story is told, and the rest felt a bit like connect-the-dots. There weren't any surprises or twists, it just plays out as we already knew it would play out, and that was kinda boring (although the visuals carried it).

More lightsabre fights in this film than all the others put together, and I have to admit I was tired of them by the end.

The opening sequence was just breathtaking.

Thats my take anyway.
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[watmough]

yup,i saw it last night,just AWESOME!!!!!
the Emperor was soooo evil,was very cool.you really did feel like anakin was gone,too.

[neff]

i agree, i nearly spit my coke on my frontman when the movie starts
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[Jimmyjimjim]

Wow, finally a good Star Wars prequel!

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Did everyone catch the bit about the Sith master that could manipulate the midichlorians to "create life"? Gotta hand it to George, that bit put an entirely new spin on the immaculate conception bit. Could the Emperor technically be Ani's Daddy?
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Overall, I'm gonna have to arrange my Star Wars chart like this:
1-Empire
2-Hope
3-Sith
4-Jedi
4-Clones
6-Menace

Think about it: We now live in a world where the Star Wars Saga is complete. Damn, I'm a dork!

[Gort]

Yo dork, welcome to the club.



I enjoyed the movie and thought it was very good. I stilll think it had some lukewarm acting here or there, but overall I was pleased. The end where Anakin's writhing torso catches fire was hardcore, and Obi Wan turning his back and walking off was even more brutal. Heavy!

Palpatine - what an evil bastard! He totally lied and manipulated Anakin so badly; what a wretched, sinister man! Even in the end blaming Anakin for Padme's death was nothing but antagonism meant to fuel so much anger.
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[Ragnarok]

I saw it yesterday and didn't find it as good as you guys.
Visually it's stunning, the best of the 6. The special effects are really good, and all the ships and creatures are top notch.

However, storytelling just sucks imho. Why does Anakin switch to the Dark Side so easily? He doesn't even question Palpine, nor asks to the Jedi about what he says. He believes the tale about the Sith Lord without doubt. He is now asking himself why he has attacked Mace and then he is killing children! All because he doesn't want to see Padme die?
If at least they would have said that he had achieved great power, the power could have turned him to the Dark Side, but hey, Obi-Wan defeats him (and Obi Wan says a couple of times he's a worse swordsman than Anakin, before he turns to the Dark Side).
Also the love scenes where pretty bad and cheesy.

And it's biggest flaw, where's the Imperial March?? I was soo looking forward to hear it when he turned to the Dark Side (or when the Empire is declared, or when he enters the Jedi Temple)
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[watmough]

i get the impression that we are supposed to understand that Palpatine has been influencing Anakin for a loooong time and that when we finally see him turn ,it is because of those years of influence.
also,the imperial march is in there a couple of times!

[Mikko K]

I hate it these days when games try so hard to be like movies and movies get closer to games... endless lightsaber duels in boring surreal environments.. I wasn't impressed with the visuals either. Ok, nice cg and all, but somehow the characters seem separated from the backgrounds, they don't interact too well when it's all done post-prod. Acting was okay, considering the story and dialogue.. The best moment was when they jumped back to the low-tech 70's starship with Vader posing there.

I like the Star Wars universum, games like Tie Fighter and so on. But imho, this film wasn't better or worse than the two before it. Just as mediocre. Good fan product but that's about it.

edit: I really tried my best to like and enjoy this film. It just didn't work for me. For example, I'm not a huge LOTR fan, but that trilogy worked nevertheless, maybe because they were adapting a well written story. With EP3, I felt like watching an over length Halo 2 cutscene.

[neff]

hey, i like computergames
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[Gort]

Well my advice to those maybe don't like the film would be to just go easy - don't read into too hard, or you'll find yourself dressed like a Jedi spewing arguments across the table with fellow Jedi at a downtown Atlanta bar after a couple of days of Dragon Con.



I could argue both ways. I could argue and debate, but I won't; I'll instead chalk it up as an entertaining movie and well welcomed - glad to see some questions answered, but I'll leave the pondering to the rest of y'all.

Chillin',

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[Freebooter]

Watching EP3 was like watching low-budget and overlenght flick from Peter Sommers, without any of that fun stuff that makes Mummy-films cool. At least this "new" Anakin wasn't such a big pussy I expected.

The good thing is that this was the last Star Wars that I know of.

[Capt. Fred]

GOOD: The movie is awesome. the opening scenes are fantastic.
The city shots are glorious, i think it rocks. When the little kid/youngling in the council place says to obi-wan, "there are too many, what are we going to do" - that was hilarious and I couldn't help myself but laugh. That kid actor must have been somebody's son, because there's no way he'd get in there on the merits of his acting.

BAD: I thought that robot guy with a heart, grievous or something, I didn't like the way he moved, that was a bit false and lame. I don't like it when the characters are too cartoonish. Sometimes using 3d seems to result in 'cartoony' when other times it does not. They can achieve amazing realism with inanimate things, and machines, but when it comes to creatures they always make a cartoon character, they they talk and move and etc. The clones' heads superimposed onto their 3d bodies was really shit and ropey.

Personally, the whole, Extremely Over The Top melodramtic style of the film, with no attempts at subtelty, no moderation, realism(not talking aobut visuals), or pretention is not a bad thing at all. More like a classical fairy tale. Princes and princesses, and unecessary details of reality like toilets and loosing things and waiting for things and a bad neck and paying for food and litter and mess and other minor complications were much better left out.

I guess when you see Padme on the balcony combing her hair, it really drives the point that it is a completely unpretentious fairy tale told as simplistically and dramatically as possible, and I think it's perfect that way. It's more like a showroom for all the Art&Design this way ;)

The bad bits were completely overwhelmed by the good bits IMHO and I was in sensory-super-satruation for all of the non 'talking-heads' scenes. Awesome.

In fairness, the kind of theatrical acting that the fariy-tale nature of the film requires is never going to be believable � because it's theatrical. It's more of a grande performance of a film rather than trying to be some realistic gritty foreign film.

[Feral]

The film was ok, felt it was more like 2 films rammed together into one film - he had a lot to fit in.
So much so that I felt things should have been left out - like General Grievous, a quick note at the beginning, blah blah blah, quick fight and it's over??
Although I like to see the end of movies, I'd have preffered another 'clone wars' movie - then he has more time to develop the 'dark side' Anakin story, a lot of which you have to end up guessing.
I was waiting for other things to put to rest - from the other films (I & II).
Who erased Kamino from the Jedi library? - or did I miss something
Who was 'Siphadious', who ordered the clones?

A lot of this was skimmed over as I feel he just wanted to get it done

[Reidar]

The movie is great, I really enjoyed it. Visually amazing, the design of characters and environment is awesome. I agree with Feral and Capt. Fred about Grievous though.

It�s hard to compare the new episodes with the old ones but one thing I like better with this one is Anakin which imo is a much more interesting character than Luke (Luke is mostly as annoying as Jar-Jar). I think the relation between him and Palpatine in this episode really puts the conflict between the Jedi and the Sith in perspective. In the other movies it is obvious that the Jedi are good guys, but in the scene where Windu is acting like Judge Dredd and tries to kill Palpatine without trial it is clear that they, just like Palpatine said, only tries to safeguard their own political power. The conflict between the Jedi and Sith is therefore more like a personal vendetta than a battle between good and evil imho. I think this is really positive since it is often boring to see never-ending battles between good and evil (LotR). It�s much more fun and realistic when characters think of themselves sometimes (Han Solo).

Therefore I think it�s neither right nor wrong of Anakin to cut off Windu�s arm. But if he had not thought that saving Palpatine would save Padm� the scene wouldn�t have been convincing.
That scene with Windu, Anakin and Palpatine could have been one of the best in the movie if Palpatine wouldn't have ruined ruined it with his whining.

[The Real Mark]

[Diruo]

It was certainly better than the other two episodes. As stand-alone movies Ep3 might be on par with Jedi, though not quite. But I simply can't judge it as a stand-alone movie. I have got so many problems with this new trilogy I don't even know where to begin. And Episode 3 did NOT make up for the other two imo. Episode III has got a proper story. That's about the only positive thing I can say about it. Poorly written script and poor acting ruined most of it. Though some performances are better in this one.

I even thought the art direction was crap (through out the new trilogy). Though the special effects were.. advanced.. and.. stuff, I think they look better in the old trilogy. Because they aren't so over-done and plentiful. Even things like the lightsabres I think look all wrong. I prefer the more realistic look of the old trilogy. It's dark, consistant and elegant. And also gritty and dusty. But I think that's just because Lucas couldn't afford to make it all shiny. Also, dust and grit is always overlooked in the new trilogy CGI. All in all, I think the reason the old trilogy is better is because he didn't have the money/technology to indulge his every friggin whim.

And also, there is no continuity between the two trilogies! Not only are there tons and tons of plot holes (which btw is totally silly, considering that the story is not very complex) but there's differences in tech, races, lightsabre techniques.. etc. Inexcusable.

In conclusion: George Lucas is a hack

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[Impaler]

There's no way that they rendered that whole thing in real-time on a PS3. There were WAY too many light sabre shader effects.
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[Drunken Monkey]

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[Godwin]

Well obviously it looks better because of bigger budgets and better technology. So are they supposed to limit their creative scopes just to make the first 3 episodes look like "true" prequels, whatever that's supposed to mean?

So... refilm the OT? No thanks, 3 pieces of shit in 6 years from Lucas is enough for me.

Btw there are always only two Sith I think, one master and one apprentice, I'm not really a SW nerd, but I think it was different in the time of KOTOR, and something happened to cause this. And were there less sith than jedis??

I haven't seen ep3 btw.
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[Odds]

George really shouldnt've left us hanging with so many plot holes. Oh well, still a good movie, doesn't compare to 4,5, or 6, though (imo of course).

[Diruo]

I agree with you all the way, gLitterbug. Everyone is going on about how great it looks, but it's the art direction that almost bothers me the most.

[blck_productions]

GlitterBug: Sith are always with two...One master -the emperor- and one apprentice -Darth Vader-...There used to be more Sith, but they got greedy and to selfish and destroyed each other untill the most pwerfull survived. He then took an apprentice...this one killed his master and so on and so on...

And as for the design -artwork- I don't think it doesn't fit with the old Trilogy...
The old trilogy is a different era, time...People are fatalic, they don'thave any future so why should you get up and polish your new spaceship- stupidly said but I think you get the picture- And indeed some vehicules, droid show a gigher technoloy in the new trilogy then in the old one,...they don't exist anymore because they came obsolete, where to fancy or had a to high cost?...

Anyway I agree with some of you who dis the movie for FX-overkill. Human animation that looks crappy -order66 on some planet-. But do remember what it is that people got hooked on SW...The big battlecruiser flying into the screen, following the rebel-ship...That was when people said:....Wow.
Lucas was and is a pioneer in FX. It worked better in the old episodes I agree. The acting, character, dialogues are better...But they never had to act in front of a blue-green-screen. So give the actors of the new series some credit. I tought Obi-wan-Kenobi -ewan MCgregor- did great. All I'm trying to say is that they both have something...The first trilogy is epic -because of the FX- the second one is more hartwarming and humane...
Hope you get my point...My girlfriend just finished the whole story I to VI,...she loved them and not for special FX but for the story and the connection you get with the characters. She's sad now that it's all over...Before she used to laugh at me because I got so excited about starwars. Now she also discoverd that the Force is strong...
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[Reidar]

Godwin, gLitterbug � about the Sith:

I�ve always thought the reason why Yoda says that there are always two Sith (no more, no less), is to make the ending of episode 6 make sense. When the first death star is destroyed by the rebels in the fourth episode no permanent damage is done to the Empire, why would destroying another death star make any difference? The destruction of the Sith is why the empire fell, not the destruction of the death star(s). It�s exactly what happened to the Inca when the conquistador Francisco Pizarro captured and killed their leader.

[gLitterbug]

You�re a clever boy Arvid, very.

Thanks everyone for the Sith explanation, makes sense now.

@Godwin - I don�t think you have to limit your creative scope to come up with something that looks like stuff that came before the original trilogy. Rather I would claim that you would have to be even more creative to come up with something that looks more retro than the whole stuff in the original trilogy was. You don�t have to depict more advanced technology only because you have more advanced technology yourself to do so.

@blck_productions - I don�t know your age, but I�m 23 and am not one that grew up with no-fx movies that got hooked onto Star Wars for the new bombast FX only. Actually I don�t think too many people really did so either, but it was for the adventure, the classic dialogue, the typical Star Wars FEEL that was in the original trilogy. One thing that shows this is how many quotes from the movie people use. I don�t think anyone would really like to quote the new episodes - "I love you" - "NO, I love YOU" - "but you�re so beautiful" - -"NO YOU are so beautiful". Do you and your girlfriend really think those dialogues are heartwarming?

Oh and to the point to cut the actors some slack for acting in front of blue or greenscreen. No. It�s their job and apart from that, if our new technology leads to inferior acting than we used to have, then there�s something going wrong.

I mean if you look at it, the CG Yoda was probably one of the best actors in the whole movie. At least I read more real looking and feeling emotion from him than I got from some actors.

What I wonder about is and maybe someone can help me out here again. Isn�t the whole putting the filmed actors into the CG backgrounds and let them interact not already as complicated as just using all digital actors? Probably a CG Christen Haydensen and Natalie Portman could not have less chemistry than the real ones had either.

[blck_productions]

Glitterbug do not misunderstand me...I was talking about the warm fuzzy-feeling in regard to the old episodes...they are the best and have that authentic star-wars feeling 'everybody' loves...
ROTS also has some nice dialogues like in the Opera-scene ...UnAturalThis one I could quote. But your right the old episodes do have better dialogue, storytelling and compasion with the characters.
The new episodes do have a starwars feeling but sometimes it gets lost in the FX and clumsy acting.
Still what would Our lives, fantasy, dreams, creativity B like without Starwars....

I'll defentitly go and watch SWIII again
Wich I could go and watch all of them in the theather again.
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[Godwin]

the original trilogy always felt more like a fairy tale set in a futuristic landscape with a ton of weird stuff mixed together, everything after and before that was added in later...
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