[Japong]

Hello all, I've been having discussions with random internet people again, most notably the geeks of slashdot.org. These discussions are usually pretty civil, until a story comes up about the GIMP, and some other person brings up Photoshop...

[B0b]

i used gimp back in '96 and having been using Photoshop since '92 didn't like the interface, but the guy who's machine i was uisng was a computer science student and loved Linux, and loved gimp as it was free, showed me loads of stuff that it could do, but i just didn't get along with the GUI..

the face that people mention that Adobe is for commercial artist who are slaves of corporate money or money = linux geek tbh

[balistic]

lol slashdot

but no, I don't think I've noticed anyone doing any painting in it . . . surely somebody must, though? You would think.
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[Gort]

Hmph

I haven't tooled with GIMP since 1999, and back then it didn't impress me.

Slave to money? What a dumbass thing to say. Who isn't a slave to money? Who doesn't have a roof to pay for or mouth to feed? Who doesn't want nice things in life? If that makes me a slave to money then so be it. I normally don't like being a free advertising mouthpiece for anyone, but I'll make an exception to Adobe; Adobe makes the coolest shit around - hands down, and if their software makes my job better and let's me make more money, then that's my business.
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[gLitterbug]

Photoshop users have bigger dicks than those who use gimp. It�s as simple as that.

[blehblehbleh]

The text you quoted just shows how people are trying to hide the fact that The GIMP has the shittiest user interface of all up-to-date paint programs.

Though it's true that Photoshop is overpriced. Open Canvas can open PSD files, has a lot of good basic drawing functions and costs only about $70.

So if you're saying Photoshop is cool because it's Adobe, you're most likely a biased fanboy.

[Mikko K]

Photoshop is overpriced. Let's all change to OC. It's much cheaper. Uh.. almost forgot, we need Kustom B(r)ushes to breathe.. I wonder if OC has those, Bleh whaddaya think?

[Gort]

You have to give Adobe credit, sonny; they make some of the most powerful applications ever - the stuff aint junk. Biased? Maybe some but I've always been open to new ideas. For example I think Painter is better than Photoshop in many ways, but I can't use Painter for the work I do. Additionally I make a good living because of Photoshop, and I know it works. Expensive? Yeppers but it's paid for itself many times over.
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[Drunken Monkey]

just about what you would expect a righteous linux hippie to say. I downloaded and used gimp 2 weeks ago. Completely unusable for painting imho. Had such obnoxiously weird glitches that made you wonder if they even tried it themselves.
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[Impaler]

Everyone I know (in real life terms, mind you) with a computer has a copy of Photoshop. So far, I'm the only person I know of who has actually PAID for one.
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QED, sort of.

[balistic]

I've actually never had Photoshop at home, pirated or otherwise.
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[jfrancis]

Gimp is a Linux ? Unix app mainly

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According to this Google search .
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=wacom+linux&btnG=Google+Search

...using a Wacom under Linux looks to be a bit of a hassle.

Maybe that's why people are not painting with the Gimp?

[Drunken Monkey]

it runs under almost everything... try downloading it for windows, see how it works out.
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[AndyT]

Unfortunately ... Gimp and Wacom tablets don't work well together.

I use Gimp and a mouse for most of my paintings ...
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but IMO neither Photoshop nor Gimp are meant to be used by artists.
I can't get used to Photoshop. So I guess it depends on what program you use more often.

Same with Blender. You throw it away after trying to get used to it for 5 hours?
It simply takes more time when you are used to a different interface.

Gimp is just one of the best free programs. The brush engine is anything but powerful though.
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[Impaler]

Haha, I was speaking specifically in "real life" terms, Tom. I'm positive that there are plenty of good-natured people on this forum who have actually paid for their copy.
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QED, sort of.

[eyewoo]

... and every update since PShop 3
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[Gort]

sorry dude . . . jus' wanted say.
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[balistic]

Actually I did try to pirate Photoshop 3 once. My friend mailed it to me on 23 floppies. After about an hour of installing, my floppy drive overheated on disk 20 and ate it.
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[Japong]

Okay, well to bring this thread back on topic, does anyone have links to GIMP artwork? Is there some kind of artists community who uses it?

(btw, thanks AndyT for linking to your gallery! You deserve a better webhost than devianART!) [/i]

[Cicinimo]

Gimp is the next big thing for digital painters. Best of all though, its like whipping corporate america in the nuts with a car antenea every time you use it. Check out this gem that showed itself when I googled for Gimp art:

[Alan]

I've wondered about this, so I thought I'd jump in with a few comments. I have seen a large vfx house saying something like ... using linux based 2d apps, such as gimp was a plus.... I think this is because many studios are using linux based 3d now, so doing 2d under linux would be nice, at least in theory. I also know of several pro (ie. pay) linux 2d apps that seem quite nice, some used in film and broadcast. So it is possible under linux, if not gimp.

[B0b]

weren't disputing Linux

[Gort]

[Farley13]

If only the gimp were small and elegant. . . . aside from major workflow issues, the mechanics of digital painting are killed in the gimp. It can't even make smooth strokes. With a medium large brush all the strokes have a wobly quality because the path isn't smoothed well. ex: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~afarley/blue-ahh3.jpg . And all the window focus switching erks that slow down anything.

linux is fun but not exactly artist's territory. yeah and the way tablets are handled is retarded. simply by unpluging my tablet pluging in my digital camera all the USB id's are messed up requiring a trip to X-windows configuration hell to get the tablet working correctly. not worth the effort.
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A bit more practice perhaps

[sweetums]

The bottom line here folks, is you have to pay to play. Pirates aside, because they have no ethics and very little honor, if you want to make computer graphics, and hope to make good computer graphics, you scrimp and save, and you spend the bucks for a legal copy of Photoshop or Painter, a Wacom Tablet (with an airbrush), and the largest monitor and best video card you can get your hands on.

I doubt you will find anyone who makes money with their CG art who doesn't have a pretty penny invested in his/her tools. It's like trying to paint the Sistine Chapel with a couple Wal-Mart Sponge brushes, and a Grumbacher Starter Oil painting kit...That's not to say you can't make some decent pieces, just that if you plan on making a masterpiece, you're gonna spend more money to have better materials.

Not all GIMP works are cheesy, just like not all Photoshop works are that great. Regardless of the software, there is no "Talent and Skills" keyboard shortcut. Here are a few of the better GIMP images out there:



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hmmm.

[Godwin]

thing is, you can do ANYTHING image-related with Photoshop; painting; web design; photo editing; game textures; whatever! And who cares if you don't have a legal copy, it doesn't really matter until unless you use it for commercial purposes (selling works, etc)
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