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ElfGirlKimmy member
Member # Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:37 am |
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Started a new piece tonight, trying a new technique - well, new for me - never done the whole greyscale-then-color deal, so I thought I'd give it a whirl.
Just want to know if there's any glaringly obvious problems with the girl thus far, or any other feedback you feel like throwing at me.
Thanks much everyone. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ DA Gallery| LiveJournal
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faeklone member
Member # Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Posts: 215 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:42 am |
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So far very well done. This should turn out very well for you. _________________ "It's not the tools you use but how you use them that counts." |
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Misc member
Member # Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 475 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:54 am |
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Looks like her neck and head is slightly to the right side of the center of her body; if you draw a straight line up from her breasts you'll see what I mean. Nice start otherwise. |
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The Real Mark member
Member # Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 322 Location: Brisbane Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:06 am |
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yeah big problem: she's missing an arm!
haha, nah good work so far! looks great, - and yeah might want ot fix the alignment of the head there. good work! |
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ElfGirlKimmy member
Member # Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:20 am |
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Thanks guys, I'll get to fixing that alignment soon. <3 _________________ DA Gallery| LiveJournal
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notic member
Member # Joined: 09 Apr 2001 Posts: 441 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:02 am |
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as the girl is tilting her head backwards, the face should get some foreshortening.
the nose is being affected by the perspective, the rest of her face isn't.
take a look at this picture, it will explain this issue better than me rambling
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you're doing good though! keep on working. |
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jinnseng member
Member # Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 100 Location: AZ
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:12 pm |
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After reading the comment about the foreshortening it looks like maybe the chin is not at the correct angle of the nose. You'll have to adjust one of those to match up with the other. Overall it's looking good. You have very clean lines. |
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ElfGirlKimmy member
Member # Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:11 pm |
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Hrmm..... My reference:
Maybe I forshortened the nose a little too much?
And I know the face shape isn't exactly the same as the ref, but that was on purpose. :-�
Oh yes,a nd an updated image:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/ElfGirlKimmy/GracePreview9.png) _________________ DA Gallery| LiveJournal
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Misc member
Member # Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 475 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:19 pm |
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I think it's the lower part of the face that doesn't look tilted enough. Your jawline looks a tad too steep, and the lower lip is too round for that angle, and also the chin is too large... try putting some more shading on it.. Otherwise, the picture is turning out very nice, her top looks great! |
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Anthony member
Member # Joined: 13 Apr 2000 Posts: 1577 Location: Winter Park, FLA
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ElfGirlKimmy member
Member # Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:35 pm |
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Okay people, I think I got the point about the chin thing, lol, I'll work on it. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ DA Gallery| LiveJournal
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ElfGirlKimmy member
Member # Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:06 pm |
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Okay, is the face worse or better, and if better then does it need to be worked more or is it fine as is?
I think this means I have to start on the background now... *is scared* lol. O.o _________________ DA Gallery| LiveJournal
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faeklone member
Member # Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Posts: 215 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:54 pm |
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The edge of the jaw is too far out. Look at your reference and you can see that the jaw doesn't go much farther than the neck. You can fix that by either redrawing that area, or painting over the sides of the jaw with hair. Either way this is really turning into an awesome drawing. _________________ "It's not the tools you use but how you use them that counts." |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:11 am |
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Hey Kimmy, your painting is quite nice.
I made this super quick paintover referring to your ref-image. Hope that's okay for you...
I tried to keep your style. Changes: chin-area softer, eyes in slightly different angle, cheek smaller and a bit more contrast to the whole!
Maybe that helps. : )
Keep one thing in mind though, if you want to create a backgound, don't just add it at the end. Work out the WHOLE image first, then go into details.
The BG may not fit to the rest of the image if you add it now...
Anyways, keep at it. It looks great so far
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ElfGirlKimmy member
Member # Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:19 pm |
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Thanks Max, that really helps. Hopefully this version is better!
Let me know if you see anything else that screams "FIX ME!!!"
Oh, and I darkened her hair. Just because. _________________ DA Gallery| LiveJournal
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:55 am |
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Better than mine, for sure. Very lovely. Great improvement Kimmy.
Now I'd add some more elements to get rid of the empty background ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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insane007 member
Member # Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 93
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:16 am |
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Not to be a bother, but some people may think that your last version looks a tad too... chipmunkish ? I think it may be the far left of the left cheek and the area above the mouth / beside the nose. But yes this version is better than the first, good job. |
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