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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:42 pm     Reply with quote
Anyone interested in anatomy should take a look at the site of Rey Bustos.

http://www.reybustos.com/

The Flash movies of rotating ecorche skeletons is especially cool

http://www.reybustos.com/04er/er.html

Los Angelenos should take note that he is offering a class in this ecorche technique at the Los Angeles Academy of Figurative Art.

http://www.laafigart.com

I am taking his class (#37) in Q1 2005

http://laafigart.com/classes.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:08 am     Reply with quote


My classwork at about the halfway point. When finished, it will have muscles as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:19 pm     Reply with quote
why you're doing that, francis, i thought you already have a 150�- muscleman-reference standing on your desk, right? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:43 pm     Reply with quote
Great links, Francis - thanks for the post on that! The flash mouseovers are terrific!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:56 pm     Reply with quote
Ditto.... for sure!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:09 pm     Reply with quote
Styles, I do, but I want to have a solid conception in my mind of every muscle and bone with as much accuracy as I can manage.

If you watch Vilppu's two tapes called "Using Anatomy," you can see him indicating a simplified skeleton, then muscling it up from memory, and ending up with great figure drawings from his imagination without reference. I'm trying to develop the same ability.

I tried painting muscles onto Poser skeletons...

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/images/musclePaint.jpg

... but I felt I needed to go into real 3D to fully grasp it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:03 am     Reply with quote
respect! how long did it already take to this point?

dang, i too should do some kind of those things, but i need advisors- hard or nearly impossible to find in modernist-germany... Confused Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:57 am     Reply with quote
I wanna do this too! Um, I will, at some point. This would help so much.

Rey was a classmate of mine at ACCD. Glad to see that he is still at it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:08 am     Reply with quote
Thanks! It's been really a great learning excercise.

The class meets every Sunday from 9 am to 2 pm for ten weeks. I usually stay on until 4:30 pm, when they close the studio.

Rey lectures for an hour or so on the day's upcoming work. We spend the rest of the class doing it. If you fall behind, you have the rest of the week on your own time to catch up.

The picture above is nine Sundays worth of work. The skeleton takes 5 or six weeks, and the muscles take 4 or 5 weeks.

He also teaches other versions of the class that meet for less time and put more of the burden of keeping up on the student in the form of homework.

With practice, you could make them much faster, but this one will end up having taken me a good 60 hours.

We only muscle up half the skeleton, so next week is the last week.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:09 pm     Reply with quote
wow, 60 hours- wish i had the discipline to do that on my own, but no, seems like i am not bruce lee.

where i am currently studying ("design") i have the opportunity to go into the anatomy or pathology (don't know the translation), where medicine students study cadavers. i already was there one time, but we, the designstudents, only got a un-opened body of an 80years old grandma- pretty hard to recognise what were muscles and what draped skin... i don't think that would have had a special impact to my skills- just on my stomache and my ability to eat grey-cooked cow-meat. Embarassed doing lifedrawing and photostudies i could get out the same i think.

but, opening a cadaver and investigate it on my own, that would have impact, i am quite sure! too bad i would have to study medicine. but wait, we have a graveyard near to our house here...sorry grandma... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:17 pm     Reply with quote
That class seems so much fun, the descripting blackboard illustrations are amazing. Damn LA:ers having all the fun.. the nearest I can get to that is ordering one of those resin models you have. Damn fragile things aren't they?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:36 pm     Reply with quote
Was yours damaged in transit? My resin figure was pretty sturdy, I thought. The weakest point is the arms, but they ship the arms separate in the box. I had to attach mine by sliding their square brass rod into a square hole.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:38 pm     Reply with quote
nice
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:07 am     Reply with quote
no, the delivery was smooth and quick (for my friends, still waiting for mine but it should arrive any day now), and the figures were unharmed (good packing). But the material itself is pretty fragile, so don't try dropping anything to the floor.

A friend of mine picked his up after putting it together (assembly version), so the stand and one arm went into the floor and broke. Luckily he's all into the resin model/paint scene, so he just glued them together and painted over whatever cracks there were. But a small warning could be that don't swing it around too much, or place a nice thick rug on the floor. ;) Great detail though.

I would like to have one of these Bustos class ones as well though, as it shows more simplified how the muscles are set up, that helps alot.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:13 am     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:14 am     Reply with quote
whui Smile

so tell us, how much did ya learn? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:41 am     Reply with quote
It's very educational, because it forces you to confront the specifics of each muscle, rather than being vague about them.

I could improve aspects of this sculpture. The pecs are a little sunken around the sternum by comparison with the other muscles -- things like that. I was more interested in the process than in the end product.

I got a clearer idea of what goes on in the thigh with the quadriceps. I had always thought of the vastus lateralis and the vastus medialis as roughly equal teardrop muscles with the rectus femoris in the middle, but the vastus lateralis is actually more like a squat surfboard stuck on the side of the femur going both in front of and behind the femur.

I had always thought that the two most visible heads of the triceps shared the humerus in roughly equal amounts. If you google "triceps," you'll see conflicting images:

http://home1.gte.net/imagine/triceps%20brachii%20lateral%20head.jpg
vague but seemingly equal sharing.

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/gallery/elbow/triceps_muscle.jpg
Long head off the bone. Lateral head fully on the bone.

If you follow the illustrations in the Eliot Goldfinger book, I think you have to do the triceps more like this:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:25 pm     Reply with quote
Wow.
Can you post some details on how to go about starting one? I don't live anywhere near LA. Like specifics on equipment, reference material, and techniques.

Im curious how you did the armature around the pelvis area. Do you have any more pictures?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:32 am     Reply with quote


Here's the wire armature at its most complete stage, but before Sculpey is applied.

The main reference was Eliot Goldfinger's anatomy book, a classroom skeleton, and Rey Bustos's lectures. I happened to have some plastic bones, which were also helpful.

We sculpted the bones on the armature with Sculpey. Baked the skeleton, Sculpted the muscles onto the hardened skeleton, and left the muscles unbaked.

Rey has a lot of insights and construction tricks he passes along, as well as lists of muscles sorted in the best order for construction. He's put a lot of work into organizing the material, and he might be able to offer the material "long distance" in the form of a correspondence course.

* also, there is a DVD in the works . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:21 pm     Reply with quote
If you are a friend or fan of Rey Bustos, please come support him at his first one man show at The San Marino Gallery December 1st. This is only the second time ever in his career that his figure drawings will be shown and available for sale. It should be quite a party, too!

December 1st, 6:00-9:00pm: Rey Bustos: Paths and Passions:

One man show for Contemporary artist Rey Bustos. Rey has developed a large and loyal fan base for his intimate, charming and surreal paintings incorporating photographs of urban landmarks in �dreamscapes� that often include buffalo, a strolling woman with a parasol, or cattle grazing. At this show collectors will see another side of Rey Bustos. Rey is a well respected professor of anatomy at the Art Center College of Design and instructor to
Disney animators and students. His mastery of the mechanics of the human body is the platform from which he creates beautiful, fluid, gestural life drawings that fuse Peter Paul Ruben�s, muscular boldness and grace with a confidence, verve and style that bring to mind improvisational jazz. Rey will be drawing from a live figure model at the show and discussing his thoughts on art and the body. A �drawing� will be held and one lucky guest will take home a framed personalized Rey Bustos drawing created that night. The reception will include live jazz, champagne and refreshments. In the Christmas spirit, everything in the exhibition will be priced at $1,000 and below. Cocktail attire, RSVP to 626-441-9007
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:22 pm     Reply with quote
If you are a friend or fan of Rey Bustos, please come support him at his first one man show at The San Marino Gallery December 1st. This is only the second time ever in his career that his figure drawings will be shown and available for sale. It should be quite a party, too!

December 1st, 6:00-9:00pm: Rey Bustos: Paths and Passions:

One man show for Contemporary artist Rey Bustos. Rey has developed a large and loyal fan base for his intimate, charming and surreal paintings incorporating photographs of urban landmarks in �dreamscapes� that often include buffalo, a strolling woman with a parasol, or cattle grazing. At this show collectors will see another side of Rey Bustos. Rey is a well respected professor of anatomy at the Art Center College of Design and instructor to
Disney animators and students. His mastery of the mechanics of the human body is the platform from which he creates beautiful, fluid, gestural life drawings that fuse Peter Paul Ruben�s, muscular boldness and grace with a confidence, verve and style that bring to mind improvisational jazz. Rey will be drawing from a live figure model at the show and discussing his thoughts on art and the body. A �drawing� will be held and one lucky guest will take home a framed personalized Rey Bustos drawing created that night. The reception will include live jazz, champagne and refreshments. In the Christmas spirit, everything in the exhibition will be priced at $1,000 and below. Cocktail attire, RSVP to 626-441-9007
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