Sijun Forums :: View topic - Italian scientist claims to have cloned a human...

edraket · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 2:00 am

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,51607,00.html

I don't know what to think about this really.
I just know that I got a really sick feeling in my stomach when I heard about this.

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

Cloning rules, i wish they could make some peeps with like an extra arm or someshin.

balistic · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 8:23 am

Begun this clone war has.

Awetopsy_MIA · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 8:37 am

*shudders*

Count Zero · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 9:29 am

It was bound to happen.
I'm not disgusted, I'm not shocked, I'm not surprised.

In the end it's up to us people to decide what to do with this new area of science. Knowing the general techno-phobia and God-loving zealots running amok in this world, it'll all get fucked up beyong belief... Pity.
I await with curiosity.

Rat · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 2:55 pm

I heard about him somewhere.

Now if only they'd turn people into chickens or something.

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

or rats ;D

xXxPZxXx · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 4:20 pm

thumbs up for human, rat, chicken cyber cloned mutant apocolyptic beings.

hrmmmm...

-PZ-

Rat · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 4:50 pm

Well, they can turn me into a rat, but I don't know about approximately 90% of the rest of the population of the world. They have about the brains of chickens, wouldn't you say? (I'm talking mostly about the "idiotic teens")

jr · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 5:09 pm

my clone says this is fake. a hoax.

Coaster · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 5:53 pm

Fine by me, just as long as thay don't start combining people...

an Osama/Hitler/hyena hybrid..

[666]Flat · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 9:48 pm

cloning could be the only way to increase my 1337nez

Lunatique · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 10:08 pm

Cues Oingo Boingo's "Weird Science."

Awetopsy · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2002 10:20 pm

"you spent all this time thinking about whether you could and not enough time thinking about whether you should" indirect quote from the famous Dr. Malcom (Jurassic park)

Giant Hamster · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 1782

Everything can go bad or good. Even drinking a glass of water you might choke and die.

If we stop now because a few have issues, it might make any new discoveries more difficult.

So, why not?

"TV is the devil! Rock and roll is the Devil's music!! red panties are the Devil's panties!! Fast cars are the devils doing! sex is the devil's love! Chocolate is the devils food! Cloning is the devils doing! Breathing is the devils breath! Living is the devils want! Everything is Evil!"

sacrelicious · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 12:21 am

It was bound to happen sooner or later. Wave of the future, people.

edraket · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 5:31 am

This just poses so many questions.

Where is the borderline between being a doctor and healing people and being an engineer and creating perfect people?
The whole cloning is being done in the name of medicine. And to a certain degree it is of course. But it goes beyond that and can have a huge impact on our society.

Is this something we just have to let happen or do we need to stop it? If so what will and what will not be allowed. And how the hell are we going to come up with an ethical code that is accepted worldwide?

What will the world be like when health, intelligence and good looks are a thing that can be bought?

We have been going down that road already with plastic surgery and certain attractive or intelligent people selling their eggs or semen for huge sums of money.

It's just horrifying. It disgusts me to no end.

Giant Hamster · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 1782

"What will the world be like when health, intelligence and good looks are a thing that can be bought?"

Well; we'd all be smart, healthy, and intelligent.

Now, Listen to this!

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

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excellent

Bump · member Member # Joined: 15 Feb 2002 Posts: 78

Aldus Huxley's kinda world (freaky)

Common Flat, the only thing they could use from you is keep your brain as a "not to do"

Impaler · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 7:23 pm

I want to know how this backwards method of cloning skirts around the whole incest thing.

I want to know why people make such a big fuss over cloning and not genetically engineered babies. It's my opinion that a race of superbabies would be far more devastating than a bunch of in-bred progeny.

I want to know why people look more to the moral entanglements than the medical complications abound in this process.

I want to know why people act so outraged and surprised when the 'news' was announced.

I want to know why people assume that cloning will suddenly become widespread, when in fact the majority of the world could not afford the procedure.

I want to know why people want to clone themselves. I see it as the equivalent of encasing your dead pet in a bronze statue; a gimmick, serving no purpose other than self-amusement.

Giant Hamster · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 1782

Yo, SHIZO! Goto the folder again...I uploaded yet another mp3 there! The Second Episode

Rat · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 8:30 pm

My question is: why would you want to clone a human?? Most of us have very little in the way of brains, so you'd have twice as many stupid people running around to torture the smart people.

Coaster · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 8:44 pm

Then clone one of the smart people...

I don't really care at all about this, I think its good that they experiment on these things.

I could never understand why they banned it? Can someone clear that up with me?

Count Zero · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 11:48 pm

This is me guessing, but the major reason behind banning human cloning (beyond the ethical aspect) is the risk. So far they've cloned a lamb, and it's already starting to show signs of premature aging and with a lamb, you can't exactly be sure if it's "normal" mentally or not . To jump from a lamb straight to human testing/cloning would be a major risk to take. For the mother and the child. That was the outrage caused in the scientific circle.

edraket · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 12:33 am

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Well; we'd all be smart, healthy, and intelligent.

Yeah sure..they would just inject you with some dna and you would suddenly become intelligent?
The new generation will be. So where will that put us? Or the 99 percent of the world that won't be able to afford it?

We will be competing with a master race.

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I want to know why people make such a big fuss over cloning and not genetically engineered babies. It's my opinion that a race of superbabies would be far more devastating than a bunch of in-bred progeny.

It's the same thing. Cloning is where the dna of an egg is replaced by whatever you want it to be. Thus you are able to pick what it will grow up to.

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goldnarmz · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 2:30 pm

i have no probs at all with cloning

IMO... stuff religion, what has it done to the human race...um bloodshed..look at the palastian and isreali, america and taliban?!!...i beleive sometime in the future sceince will lead to better the human race.

..but i do believe that there is a God out there...but i dont think God is a selfabsobed-egomaniac that want to be worship but to just want us to acknowledge his there and to live are live rightly(if there is such a word)

roundeye · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 2:48 pm

are you high, goldnarmz? you sound like this crackhead i once knew.

klaivu · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 2:50 pm

Imo the human race in itself is already a nightmare scenario. Might as well risk an orwell world order and opt for eugenics. Ie. nothing much to lose.

[ April 11, 2002: Message edited by: klaivu ]

goldnarmz · Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 3:33 pm

sorry if i have offended some peeps here, just expressing my feelings after all this warshit happenning around the world, for the sake of religion, just pisses me off

i agree what have got to lose with cloning?

round..dont do drugs..drugs are very bad!