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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:07 pm     Reply with quote
gort,that from the teachings of don juan?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:21 am     Reply with quote
Yes - from the works of Carlos Castaneda. Interesting stuff but certainly not for everyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:24 pm     Reply with quote
Hey ArachosiA, you're not alone. Find something in life that feeds you and gives you hope. It could be anything. Life is sadness, humiliation and exploitation, but it's also wonder, beauty, and joy. Forgive yourself for being you. Take a deep breath and wake up to a new day.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:16 pm     Reply with quote
and if the above advice fails, remember, its down the highway not across the street.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:33 pm     Reply with quote
really like that quote gort, ... powerful.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:46 pm     Reply with quote
ArachosiA wrote:
Well, let's see. I'm 25. 30 lbs overweight with an eating disorder. Complete lack of self-confidence. Had 2 girlfriends in my entire life. Haven't had sex in 2 years. Not that it would matter because I can't last more than 2 minutes anyway. Complete lack of motivation. Don't like anything. Severely depressed. Losing hope every day. Feel passionate about nothing. Devoid of energy and personality. Extremely shy and feel uncomfortable around people. Desperately want to have a relationship, but don't see it happening. Distorted (or is it?) self-image. Braindead. Unintelligent. Feel inferior to nearly everyone. Getting sick of this shit, but not a quitter. Too stubborn or stupid to commit suicide. Don't believe in god, but maybe I'm already in hell.....


You can start by never referring to yourself in this way again. Ever. If you keep telling yourself that you're worthless, you'll believe it. It becomes part of your identity. You can use that to your advantage, however. If you always refer to yourself as happy, what do you become?

I know many folks think they're a bunch of BS, but you should pick up some self help books. The good ones can help you change your life.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:17 am     Reply with quote
Forget the books, forget the razors, forget all the uplifting mumbo-jumbo.

DO SOMETHING!
You can sit and obsess over how lousy everything is,
you can read every postivie thinking and motivational book out there,
you can tell yourself how it's lousy, or it's getting better, and you know what? It won't change a thing.

As the saying goes, "Don't talk about it, BE about it."
Get off your fat, sorry, lonely, un-motivated ass and go DO SOMETHING.
And I mean something that will provide concrete, visible, tangible results that will last longer than 24 hours.

Write 2 lists. One of every sorry ass flaw/defect in your life (c'mon, I know you've got worse sins than the few you've posted!), and one of every truly good thing you can say about yourself...try to come up with 10, even if you have to resort to things like "I still have all my original teeth," "I'm not bald...yet," or "I bathe regularly and use deodorant."
Everytime you feel sorry for yourself, read the bad list first, see if you can add to it, and then read the good list, even if you can't add to it (but try anyway).

Pick a project in your life that you've put off and do it to completion. Be that painting (or simply cleaning and vacuuming) your bedroom, sorting your junk drawer(s), or creating a work of art. DO SOMETHING. Don't obsess over it not being good enough, just finish it, whatever it is. Don't quit until it is. Then add that accomplishment to your "good" list.

If you simply tackle things one at a time, you won't get overwhelmed by what is not getting done, but will feel the satisfaction of accomplishement for what IS getting done.

As for the eating disorder, like everything else, you DO have the power to change it, you just are too undisciplined to make yourself do something. Here's a BIG clue for you. Life is HARD. There is no one who will make it worthwhile for you, and you will never be able to enjoy Life without some effort and some suffering.
Carl Jung once stated that all Mental Illness arises from the inability to accept true suffering in Life. Most people who express their lives as you do (and you are far from being alone in your feelings and situation) are simply too LAZY to make themselves do something. It's far easier to sit around and feel sorry for yourself than it is to actually DO SOMETHING that is an accomplishment, even something as trivial as scrubbing their toilets. At least if you are miserable while you are doing something, you've got some justification for it.

I'm sorry that you are so mired in your misery, but it IS totally of your own choosing. As long as you remain too lazy to make yourself DO SOMETHING, you will remain where you are. If you want to feel less inferior to others, get off your fat, whiny ass and visit your closest nursing home, and ask if you can visit with someone who is without family or friends. Meet someone and be nice, just for one day. Bring them a plant. Go to your local homeless shelter or soup kitchen, and help out for just one day, even if it's taking out the trash for them. Who knows? Maybe you can make Life less miserable for someone else (and give yourself another entry for your good list!).

No one owes you anything, just as you owe no one anything. Life is what YOU make it, and it's always easier to cry about how miserable you are when you can fit the mold by not doing anything to change your situation.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:47 pm     Reply with quote
This seems to be the same problem with making artwork based off of personal emotion, you tend to get similar reactions like the responses in this thread. People do not really care about a strangers emotions but feel as if there is some significance to their own. And that is not inclusive to people that just think well of themselves. You can think of yourself as worthless and also be an egomaniac.

If you don�t like who you are then why try to be yourself? There is not much in the way of integrity anymore, and if no one really cares about how you are feeling then why would anyone care (or know) if you are honest with them? Think of it as acting. Start of slow. If you are feeling nervous or anxious in a social situation, try to act as though you are not. Act calm on the outside even if you are screaming on the inside. But if that proves to be a bit too difficult on it�s own, take up drinking. Alcohol is a very good way of taking the edge off. Carry a flask around with you, drink in public. Offer some to others as an ice breaker. Eventually, if you play this act enough, it becomes as second nature, and people will perceive this as how you are sincerely.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:46 pm     Reply with quote
Check out this website. It's not a religion, but the information presented can guide you to understanding how you're getting what you're getting in life. Although I had different issues, I was feeling pretty much the same as you. A friend of mine introduced me to this site and it really helped me in understanding how I create my life via my thoughts. Let me state again that I'm not the Religious type. The way I viewed it was, if there was a God, I was not very happy with him/her. I also took issue with how each religious group always claimed that they found the way and all others were false, but that's a different subject altogether. Anyhow, this couple has a unique gift of explaining how there are many paths for each of us to find our place. They can help you understand how you're attracting into your experience everything you are getting. In short, everything you're getting in life you invite because of your thoughts. This includes wanted and unwanted experiences. The thing is that most of us don't understand how we create using our thoughts. If we did, we'd pay more attention to what we're thinking and where it's leading us in terms of life experiences. The unwanted experiences happen when you entertain unwanted thoughts. How do you know if a thought is unwanted? It's simple. If the thought feels good you want it. If the thought feels bad, you don't want it. That's the purpose of our emotion. Anyhow, once you understand how your thoughts actually attract events, circumstances, and people into your life, you can then utilize your thoughts to your advantage. It's actually very easy... Laughing

Please keep in mind this is just a suggestion. If it's not something that feels good to you, then it's just not meant to be a part of your experience. You'll eventually find what works for you. It's a fact that when you're at your lowest point, you're at your strongest point of clarity in terms of knowing what you want. From what I've read, it sounds to me as if you want to feel good. Your post is a plea for words of upliftment and encouragement. You want to feel better and that's why you started this thread. The thing is, others can't give it to you. Even the couple at the website I'm suggesting can't give it to you, but they can show you how you can give it to yourself. There's not one path, but many paths. You have a resource of inner guidance that can lead you to what you and only you are wanting. Wink


http://www.abraham-teachings.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:02 am     Reply with quote
I hate people like you who only think of themselves!

Another word of wisdom:
"Don't talk to ugly people - they may think that it's okay to look like they do."
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:29 am     Reply with quote
daZork wrote:
I hate people like you who only think of themselves!
And, you're thinking of who, exactly when you make a statement like that??? Fool.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:46 pm     Reply with quote
I was talking about the depressed guy who made the thread. Well.. I hate wannabe-psycologists also. But it wasn't my intention to insult you if you felt offended.

I will describe: I hate people who think of themself entirely. Like this guy who made the thread, who pours shit and complaining of how bad his lifesituation is, making people in his surroundings suffer in some ways.

I had some friends just like that. You know.. suddenly you get depressed yourself just because you let them give you rubbish-talk all day.

When that guy commit suicide he will not think of the consequences for his family or friends. He only think of himself.
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