[DRW]

Here's my last work!


I used a ref for this one! (my mexican black kingsnake)

Feel free to comments

PS:sorry for the quality my scanner is shit

DRW
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[JugOfbees]

Im not really sure what to say about this one. It is almost hyperrealistic. I dont necessarily mean that in a good way either. I look at this piece and I almost see the artist as a computer -- mechanical and rigid.

Because the piece is being displayed in a digital context it becomes even less human, and I even begin to question whether or not it was done by a filter. There is probably something in your head that makes you unique to the world, what you need to do is take *that* and put it in your artwork.

In a few words: more you, less machine.

[Greensun]

the guy above me is crazy, this is excellent beyond words!
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[Spooky]

Umm...you did THAT with a pencil?? Wow.
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[faB]

This could be done with a pencil... I have seen photorealistic pencil artworks before, but the way this one is rendered, with a sort of overkey lighting, kinda kills the subject imho. I can't really tell where the light is. It's like trying to do a Photoshop filter by hand which seems pointless to me. This could be a beautiful picture of the snake if rendered in 'normal' light and shadow.

PS: if I had put so much time and attention to render this with pencil, I would definitely not sign it like this in Photoshop, which makes me think you didnt really do this with a pencil...
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[ceenda]

Looks good.

I don't understand why the whites are totally blown out like that, or why they would rendered that way in real life, unless the poor little guy is under an industrial theatre lamp (in which case, kingsnake for din-dins...). Did you adjust the curves in photoshop?

Any chance of a zoom shot? Curious about the technique.

[balistic]

looks like a bad filter job to me. Can we see a detail, or a better scan?
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[Dekard]

Yeah, as the others stated, it doesn't quite look like a drawing. Can we see any other of examples? You've even put in the little pebbles of sand, you stated you used a reference but I did notice that reference wasn't included on your site.

I did a similiar image in about 2 minutes in Photoshop to show you what people are suggesting you might have done. If you can take a pic of this above the drawing pad, I'm sure alot of this would be taken back.

[Dekard]

BTW, Leo rocks!! He's a cool lookin lizard!

[math]

well this looks fucking photoshopped to me and i really doubt u drew this. especially after reading all ur posts, inculding this one:

[DRW]

1st its really a drawing!

2nd : i used this method, i started with a 4h to do the frame and some light stroke, same thing with a 3h, 2h,h n hb!

Math: thx to remember me this buddy but if u can read carefully i was talking about a wacom ( cause theres a big diff between a hb pencil ansd a wacom) like u saw, im a beginner with a wacom thats why i asked help to get better result! And like a lot of artist i dont like my works so its why i want a new style like the one i mentionend (spooge,malachi....ect) yeah these guys are my "mentor" my inspiration n my breathe to make me continue drawing ....

Fab: i never signed up my works, this one is on the net thats y i signed it!


anyway i started drawing at 5 yo n im now 22 so if i cannot draw some realistic stuff in 17 years of experiences y do u believe someone with 2 y of experiences can do it!

Dekard: yeah i know i said i used a ref! Again read what i wrote i didnt say i used a pic but the snake itself! U want the ref send me a box ill drop down the snake inside n ship back to u lol

Anyway believe me or not i dont care!
And i dont want to start bullshit here!
Like a already said before to others people than you (the sijun forum) y i bought a wacom at over 1000$ if its to copy or use photoshop filter!

PS:sorry for my bad english again!

DRW
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[helltaxi]

that is really sad.
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[dingo]

on second thought: comment withdrawn

[snakel]

woah, that is some of the best pencils i have ever seen!
amazing work

[skullmonkeys]

Ok. Right off the bat you are lying because you said you referenced it from a live model. It's not. If you did indeed drew this it's from a photograph because i can see some pretty obvious camera effecs here. Like how the highlight on the snake's head is blown out.

so either this is a filter job in photoshop or a 'pencil drawing' from a photo.
If it's the latter, [which i doubt] it woulden't be hard to make a close up scan.

[The Bear]

Ha! Yunno, if you'd asked, I could have told you a better way to use Photoshop to make something look like you have drawn it in pencil.
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[Plumb Lunatic]

[matter]

personally, i think you could use some more darks... the darkest spot is the end of its tail. is that going to be the focal point? also, i think for instance the large skin area next to its head could be divided up by value more... from the edge of the top, to the large side, to the part tucking behind the end of the tail... same for the head. i do like the style, i think trying to incorporate photographic qualities in a traditional drawing (think about adding some more visible linework to complement the photorealism?) could lead to interesting effects...

-matt
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[spur3d]

Hey sorry to be rude but your "drawing" is photoshopped. I don't mind looking at work from a newbie, but to try to pass off work that isn't yours is going to hurt you in the long run. I want to believe that your talented, but you still haven't sufficiently substantiated your method for drawing this with a detail of the drawing.

Judging by your work digitally:


I would think that your lying to yourself. Even going from traditional to digital should not mess you up that badly as an artist, when you switch you don't lose all the rules that you followed before, or the ability to visualize things. Sorry to burst your bubble man.[/img]

[Christian +]

Hey people, COME ON!
I believe in the decency of Sijun and therefore all the people in it. I can�t see the picture originally posted by DRW so I can�t really judge it.
This site is meant to help out people that are in search for perfection and diversity of art and opinions related to it. It�s not to kill the weak ones if they happen to pass by.
If some of you believe he�s lying I suggest you leave him by and ignore his post. But don�t throw stones on the guy.
I love this site, so please my friends let�s not mess it up like this.
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[Plumb Lunatic]

I disagree. A staple point of constructive criticism, is calling people on bad work and bad practice. There was nothing redeemable about the piece posted, and more over, he was trying to pass off a bad piece of Photoshop filter work as a hand rendered illustration.

That kind of behavior needs to be called and exemplified, otherwise the artist in question has no impetus to improve when they realize they've gotten away with it once.

It also devalues the time and effort put in by other artists - if someone can achieve the same level of praise and encouragement by falsifying their work, why should the rest of us bother?
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[Dekard]

He deleted it from his webspace.. I agree with the above, it wasn't that we were being negative with him, he had posted an image similiar to the one I posted above. He suggested it was all done in pencil, which obviously was not.

I'm sure we could of been much harsher on the guy. I'd love to see more of his artwork, honestly. I'm all about seeing other peoples work.