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see member
Member # Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 481 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:51 am |
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where can i get some good texture? free is not a must.
hey xia im back
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Naeem member
Member # Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1222 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:02 pm |
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30 mins:
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P-Rik member
Member # Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 554 Location: East of France
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:27 pm |
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After a great lesson about Ocean Representation from Mr Spooge lot of pages later...
Try No1
 _________________ Pierrick l'Illustrateur des bois.
Website ! |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:55 pm |
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ax--hv, thank you, keep up the good work.
Freebooter, wuw me likes.
P-rik, very nice.
annisahmad, I like that you are keep going strong with it, keep it up.
oh maan I don't know what I was thinking with this piece, I better hide behind a rock or something.
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Naeem member
Member # Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1222 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:24 pm |
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thanks matthew. i actually like this one by u alot for some reason. the glassy/reflection feel that it has to it. and the lonely coca cola can just sitting there, waiting to be drunk. lol. good job on it!
P-rik-nice colorful beach dude. keep going with it.
see-u've inspired me to paint some chinese stuff. sometime in the future, i will attempt soemthing like urs
Freebooter-like ur 2 samurais. keep it up. i tried to look at ur last samurai pic, and use it as a base reference to do a totally different pose and lighting, but it didnt work out. after the first 50 seconds, i gave up. lol.
everyone else; e.g. spoogedemon, ax--hv, mitsui, capt. flushgarden, keep up the great work. u guys r really a great inspo |
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Freebooter member
Member # Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 417
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:29 pm |
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Thanks Matthew. Your picture is so pleasant to eye with lots of information and reflections.
annisahmad: Gheehee I'm flattered
ax--hv: Your latest pieces are very good.
Tacky vampire
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Cpt.Obvious member
Member # Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 239
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:04 pm |
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God how long I haven't been here.
here's a protrait of my gf from a shot she sent me while ago
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Omi-kun member
Member # Joined: 30 Nov 2002 Posts: 318 Location: Austin, tx
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:09 pm |
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Gnou junior member
Member # Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Paris
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:11 pm |
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it s a shame for me to post here, i ve seen the 510 pages of this thread, day by day, and I still don t get bored of it
I think there are many perspective and light errors, I ll work on that
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Odds member
Member # Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 374
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:31 pm |
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i painted a magic card called Mirari:
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ax--hv member
Member # Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 349
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:04 pm |
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thanks
see>i like it
Silicon face...
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seth1 member
Member # Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 534
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:24 pm |
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Annis: Great work man keep it up...
Matthew: HEHE, like how there is a can just sitting there...
Quick 5 minute
another one
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Zhuihunbi junior member
Member # Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:11 am |
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Hawkswift junior member
Member # Joined: 24 Oct 2000 Posts: 37 Location: Seattle, Wa, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:36 am |
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Gots me a title for this one, in honor of holloween:
The Dryad Rejected
left the lines in - figured they added something. probably should have erased some - the line on the woman's face in particular jumps out at me. |
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spooge demon member
Member # Joined: 15 Nov 1999 Posts: 1475 Location: Haiku, HI, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:58 am |
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baron to post
Flush, yes, there are painters that use one brush size and it works fine. But there are a lot of other things that you have to do to make this kind of thing work, mostly with shape and value simplification. My tree painting would have been stronger if I had thought about it that way, but I guess I was trying for something more realistic than that.
Pato, yes that is the idea.
Eyewoo, I feel exactly the same way about drawing. I draw for a while and it is exhausting, so I avoid it. But like most things, it is more enjoyable when you know more about it and are better at it. I am getting more knowledgeable and it is getting slowly easier and more fun along the way. But I don't mean drawing as in using line and tone, painting well is mostly drawing, just not with lines. Drawing to me is about structure. Thurber and Silverstein are great drawers. There is a very strong foundation underneath what they do. I think they knew this stuff intuitively (talent) but I am afraid the rest of us have to figure it out with the frontal lobes. Sometimes I think the best drawers are animators. Ah, enough babbling
Yes, something like that. If you want to do things traditionally. I am finding it is important for what I want to do, but it may not be for everybody.
Yes I am very familiar with Church and his life. He was/is a great inspiration for me from early on.
Lunatique, The subject of schmids paintings to me seems to be the use of paint. I love the work based on this, and his drawing is impeccable.
As far as content versus technique, yes, I suppose with digital I am familiar enough with the tools I can go on autopilot some. But with oil, I just need to do a few thousand more of them. With brain engaged. Which means analyzing why each one sucks, until they don't anymore:) hopefully.
I will keep an eye out for your posts and give you my opinion, no problem.
Matthew, what you are referring to is additive and subtractive technique, and yes, that can help out with a lot of things. It's a great way to work digitally especially. I wonder is the blue dots in the b's paintings are artifacts. The museum was dark and the camera handheld. I brightened up the images as well. But I know there are amazing subtle warm and cool greys in all his skintones. I read he used no pouncing or blender brushes. How he did it is beyond me. |
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watmough member
Member # Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 779 Location: Rockland, ME
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:38 am |
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spooge,ive never seen any of bouguereaus paintings in person,but if he painted anything like ingres(wouldnt be surprised) he would have used very thin transparent glazes over a grey underpainting.also,glazing complements over each other to control saturation.
anyway,i really like your oils. |
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Freebooter member
Member # Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 417
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:18 am |
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ax--hv great plastic effect you have there.
Spooge and his toreador jackets...
Pansy in platemail
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seth1 member
Member # Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 534
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:24 am |
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spooge demon: Thats neat man... Really like the color choose there...
I was just woundering if this pose works? If the anatomy proper or what would work? It supposed to be 2 people fighting i think i might place it in a grave yard or some thing with leafs comming up all over the place and trees etc... Please help...
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zhuzhu member
Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 683 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:46 am |
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SD 5:
 _________________ I am the king of the world! hahaha^-^ |
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watmough member
Member # Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 779 Location: Rockland, ME
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:03 am |
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hemigoblin junior member
Member # Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 35
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:42 am |
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Zhuihunbi >> Your most recent is very nice! _________________ Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. |
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Naeem member
Member # Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1222 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:48 am |
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40 minutes:
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Mikko K member
Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:12 am |
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Spooge: some of that babble just got a "save to disk and read later treatment". So much things that a noob like me can't even begin to understand.
You guys just keep rocking.
Poor anatomy + lack of definition =
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Naeem member
Member # Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1222 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:18 am |
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and 1 more. this time this is an hour because i painted the planet and that was really hard....... so 1 hour in photoshop cs
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ExonGep member
Member # Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 86 Location: La Isla del Encanto
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:26 am |
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OldAlienDude:
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Keep Walking |
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:27 am |
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spooge, I think it's time for a sequel to your sun-princes image :)
awesome baron.
see love that girls clothing. Everything below her face is beautifully done.
Maybe this is what it'll be like when we live underground ;) I ballsed this one up.
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:52 am |
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Beware of reading this, your world view will be destroyed:
I saw a documentary today with a guy called David hockney and I tell you major setback for my world perspective.
Big painters like Vermeer, Carvaggio and Rembrandt and many others used Camera Obscura and flipped mirror pictures which they traced to do their drawings
and paintings way back, due to that such high realism that was in their
paintings. Bougerau apperently used reference photos and I always thought
he relied on studies and his drawings. My teachers just laughed at me when I said I felt like this tecnique was and is cheating, I wanna rely on my
memory and not use any kind of reference except for reallife-studies and then take it from there.
I know there are and will be a lot of strong opinions about this but I had to vent in here cause my mind is rushing at the moment and maybe I can feel a bit better after put this down here. Anyway, this guy called David
hockney proved and showed the methods on which the previous mentioned artists relied on.
Also explained why some of those old paintings was mirror flipped and everyone in the scene were left-handed, one painting they showed also had a monkey holding a piece of cloth with his left hand.
However the evidence to me was so strong that it is really obvious that they had used this tecnique, Camera obscura.
ok I'm go gonna cry for ten minutes then I am gonna pick up pencil version 1 and draw.
Thanks for all the previous comments on that house-setting with coke-can.
keep up guys |
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Naeem member
Member # Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1222 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:38 pm |
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good work matthew. about wat u said; i knew that some painters used this. i picked up a couple of books n they even tried to imploy these kind of techniques on its readers. i never knew famous painters like rembrandt used this. im with u with the cheating thing. when i use a reference, i really do feel like im cheating. so, wat i do is that if i ever want to paint something i look at it and try to memorize it. this way, when i go to paint it at a later date, its had time to develop and mature in my mind. then when i put it on paper, its my own version, something completely different, and even when im putting it on paper, im changing my mind. heh. however, if im having trouble with lighting, i go online to look for reference pictures to see how certain lights r. thats my bit of it. |
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Mitsui member
Member # Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Posts: 642 Location: Hamburg/Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:58 pm |
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thnx odds
freebooter great stuff!
ZhuZhu the hair and the face looks awesome!
Capt. Fred nice athmospere!
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Rolthryn member
Member # Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:22 pm |
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Ohhh so long time didn't post.
Beautiful works everybody
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