[Lunatique]

If I hear one more R&B/pop/mainstream song abusing the vocoder effect in their vocals, I'm gonna f&#k some shit up. Kraftwerk made it cool, and now NSync and the rest of the shallow crap is abusing the hell out of it. What, they think using a little vocoder is going to get them street credibility? It's like seeing pop videos that have electric guitars in them, when you don't even HEAR any guitars in the song. As if featuring a guitar in their video now makes them ROCK.

Grrrr. . ..

[Icannon]

is the vocoder that thing that makes your voice sound like a synthesizer? if that be so .. NO SHIT! it's sickening ]

[Giant Hamster]

A lot of them aren't using vocoders anymore. It's a thing very similar though...it's called an auto-tuner.

A vocoder:
It Takes a voice(the modulator) which modulates a synth(the carrier) and you get the synth sounding like a voice...

An Auto-Tuner:
You input the scale that the vocals have to be in, then if you sign a bit off tune it will automatically correct it for you...
well...a lot of vocalists do this as a normal part of recording a song and it's so subtle you can't hear it...
but now they've turned it into a novelty. Now when you hear it, the people are intentionally singing out of tune(or they really just can't sing) with the correction speed set very fast so that the jumps are very unrealistic and synthetic sounding.

heh...ok...*leaves*

[PlantMan]

That Cher tune was the best, but i thought is was Dr Steven Hawking on backing

[balistic]

You can pretty much point the finger at Daft Punk's "Around the World" from 97 . . . from there it was the Cher track (which sampled Daft Punk), and then that Eifel 65 attrocity, and then more Daft Punk . . .

Vocoders have always had use in techno/electro circles, but its never sounded as garish as some of the stuff that's getting radio play lately.

Pop is a big money making leech. It takes good ideas from independant musicians, sanitizes them, runs them into the ground, and cashes the check. Some of these "nu-skool" electro beats that the bling-bling rappers are putting in their tracks are almost identical to the ones Juan Atkins was programming in 1983.

But don't dare accuse them of sounding like "techno" . . . they've got non-nerdy their image to maintain, after all.

[Rat]

Most pop music disgusts me anyway. Has anyone noticed that N*Sync all sound the same?

[Dr. T.J. Eckleberg]

The vocoder effect is used do drown out an even more annoying effect; the effect of tone-deaf singers screeching like cats in hot water.

If Brittney Spears' sound man ever keels over, her career will die with him.

I can't carry a tune, therefore I chose a career wherin I don't have to sing. I wish some of the pop stars these days would follow that example.

[[Shizo]]

Truly, the shit's gotta be shaken up! And i will be there to do it! Maybe Hamster too hehe, before me.

[Impaler]

Dude.. Peter Frampton's guitar is talking, man! IT'S TALKING!! *toke*

Dude, that's awesome.

[travis travis]

It's kinda like Photoshop filters in music...

AND THAT FUCKING PISSES ME OFF!

but really, the hideous standards in today's popular media from movies to games to graphics are something I talk about all too much (cripes, that's all I've written about in all my papers for my rhetorical writing class so far) so I'll shut up.

and to those who would shake things up, as I hope to do in all corners in life, PLEASE DO. the mall boy punk, the orlando pop, the alternaclones semi-rockers... GEYAAAAAA! Makes me sick, especially cause I'm a lonely guy who from time to time depends on some good, rich creative food to feed me. but one of the main reasons I'm into the arts is that other people are too lazy to get to the good shit that satisfies me

[wayfinder]

balistic: vocoder!=autotune, giant hamster nailed it. cher = autotune, darth vader= vocoder.

actually, a vocoder can for really nice effects, but, as with all special fx, in doses.

[wayfinder]

make

[Freddio]

haha plant man

[balistic]

Actually, you can use a vocoder to get autotune-like effects, if the wave you're modulating already has a melody. I'm pretty sure that's what Daft Punk did for "Bigger Better Faster Stronger" on Discovery. They used a vocal to modulate a lead guitar part. Really the only decent track on that LP.

[EviLToYLeT]

This is for Britney

[wayfinder]

brian, bbfs is nice, but digital love is *squirt, squirt, squirt*