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jett
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:23 pm     Reply with quote
i recently did some digital art for a friend's birthday present, the psd file was 4"x7" at 300dpi, when I exported it as a jpg, the file changed to 16.667"x29.167" at 72dpi.

i want to print this at kinko's at the size of 4"x7", so what i'm wondering is, which file do i bring for them to print?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:04 am     Reply with quote
Distill it to a PDF.
Kinko's supossedly proprietary files are just PDF files with their extentions.
They can ALWAYS take a PDF.
Acrobat will constrain the image to your original 4x7.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:48 am     Reply with quote
i made my jpg into a pdf using adobe's pdf online. yet there seems to be a downgrade to the quality as compared to my jpg, the lines aren't as smooth as before.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:26 pm     Reply with quote
In PDF under settings -> objects there's a place to set the jpg quality to 300. Better yet use the option to send the image as a ZIP.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:57 pm     Reply with quote
mm i couldn't find that actually.
could you clarify?
i'm using adobe reader 6.0
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:05 pm     Reply with quote
Oops... sorry 'bout that.
I thought you had the full version.

Do you have an application that will
save to PDF, like CorelDraw for instance?

Tell me more about PDF ONLINE.
I've never used it.
Let me look at it and see what options
are available there.
Where do I find it?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:04 pm     Reply with quote
Have you considered printing the picture in photoshop?

Another alternative is to resameple the pix to 72dpi in photoshop before saving to jpg.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:22 pm     Reply with quote
Not sure, but I suspect that Kinkos would be able to handle a TIFF format file. If so, save it in TIFF format.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:40 pm     Reply with quote
stacy- no i dont have corel draw actually, here's the link to pdf online https://createpdf.adobe.com/index.pl/3207521658.74552?BP=NS6&Language=ENU

nafa- printing in photoshop? hmm i'm not sure whether kinko's does that. as for changing the dpi before saving, that seems to work but will it affect the quality?

eyewoo- i think i'll just bring them every version that i have and see what they recommend or are willing to handle.

thanks all
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:10 pm     Reply with quote
Well, without a full version of Acrobat or compostiting app
like CorelDraw or InDesign I guess that a TIFF file would
be ok.

When you give Kinkos the file make SURE they know
that the IMAGE AREA is 4x7.

I gave a bunch of CMYK TIFF files to them one time that
didn't have any crop marks, but I told them in
a normal tone of voice that I wanted just the
image area to print with a 1/8" bleed.

They said "Sure, no problem. They'd do it
without the cropmarks."

When I got it back, they'd printed the entire
file INCLUDING the white space around
the edge of the image.

So, every page was 8.5x11
with a little full four color sep of a 6x9 picture
of the real page in the middle of each one.

Make SURE they understand EXACTLY what
scale the image area is to print at.

If you're having them print it as a CT, remember
to give them a 24bit RGB TIFF, not a CMYK.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:11 am     Reply with quote
CT?

thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:43 am     Reply with quote
Continuous Tone or "contone".
A Xerox of a photo or illustration is CT. Photo paper itself is CT.
As opposed to spot color or process color where the image is
broken into a range of dots from about 5% black to about %5 white.

I noticed you run Jett Productions.
If you're going to have a production company, you need
to know these things.

DO THIS: Go to AMAZON.COM or your local bookstore
and order "POCKET PAL, A graphic Arts Production Handbook"
by International Paper. It's small and costs about $16
but it has THOUSANDS of dollars of graphic art production
knowledge in it.

Most of the information you could possibly stuff into your head
in four years of graphic arts school is IN that book.
GET IT !!! It will be the best $16 you ever spent.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:30 am     Reply with quote
ya jett productions inc. isn't actually a real company.- yet
i'm still pretty young but i'm thinking of doing something with it when i get older.
i'll check that book out though

thanks again
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:30 am     Reply with quote
Kinko's will print from Photoshop. I learned this once long ago, before I learned to print my own stuff, when the Kinko's chick knew less about print settngs in Photoshop than I did. She let me behind the counter to change the dpi setting in photoshop and then set the image up for print using the print with preview feature.

Kinko's is bloody expensive. I found it cheaper to do it myself for small quantity or use bulk quantity from print stores to get cheaper prices on materials and not have to worry about doing the work.

Photoshop will typically save the DPI setting in a JPG file, but only certain programs are actually set to read this. One of these is Microsoft's Picture Viewer that was released with XP.
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