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Rocco - X
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:25 am     Reply with quote


Any C&C is greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:16 am     Reply with quote
I'm not sure what or how you want to use color here.
The figure is pretty much grey-scale without much contrast. As a stylized piece in that black and white frame, it "works" as is.

If I had to colorize though, I'd set the black frame to a dark grey, sepia tone the figure, add grey-green art nouveau-ish vines at the left and bottom of the doorway (his left) with a single muted orange bloom just above his left hand. Then I'd go back and add highlights that indicate he's strongly backlit, like across the tops of his arms and helmet and left calf.
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Rocco - X
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:52 pm     Reply with quote
thanks for the tips. just to let everyone know. this is a pencile drawing that i scaned in mutplyed over some grey. when it comes to color, im quite lost. Ill try a few things.
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Rocco - X
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:16 pm     Reply with quote


this is what im trying to go for. but i know im missing somthing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:24 pm     Reply with quote
the shadows/walls could be cooler, maybe even blue.. to contrast the harsh orange (and follow warm/cool light/shadow ratio). or also try varying saturation a bit to give some depth?

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Rocco - X
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:30 am     Reply with quote


I think thats a little better. thanks for the tip. ill need to refine this though. can anyone recomend a good book on color theory?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:47 am     Reply with quote


Just made some changes. i think it looks alot better
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 3:12 pm     Reply with quote
VERY nice Rocco.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:00 am     Reply with quote
The main thing to me is that it's hard to tell what kind of emotion is being expressed by the pose. I think the problem comes from the legs. While he's thrusting his right hip forward, it's suggested that the right leg is receding because it does not come down in the picture past the left. And as his left hip dips back, his left leg is planted in front of him. This is confusing because it doesn't really look like he's standing--more like floating and dragging his feet. Also, the left leg doesn't have to be turned so much to the side.

Another thing to work on is feet. For me, feet are unquestionably the hardest part of figure drawing. You have to be careful not to make them look too small, or they look like they can't support the figure. You also have to pay attention to their shape so that their planes correspond with the planes of the floor. It looks to me like you meant for his right foot's toes to be the only things touching the ground. In that case, the front joint of the foot armor should be flat on the ground and the lines taking it back should match up with the lines taking the floor back toward the vanishing point.

I hope that doesn't sound like too much beating up. You really have some nice stuff going on in the top section with the warm to cool changes on the shoulders and the well detailed armor.
Good luck! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:20 am     Reply with quote
Thank you for the cits.Yeh what i was intending for the legs is him trying to make a step with the left most leg bent and up while putting support on the right most leg. I guess if that isnt apparent right away then i didnt do it right. Ah, in order to do it right id have to redraw most of the image. forshortening is a bitch. thanks for all great crits. ill post un update a lil later.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:05 am     Reply with quote


did some more work on the colors and lighting.

also here is the picture without the drawing on top of it.



coo coo
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:32 pm     Reply with quote
ok nice, now leave the drawing out and start working on the underpainting,
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:21 pm     Reply with quote
good idea. i should have thought of that
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:17 am     Reply with quote


Update. now im going strickly with the painting. hope this turns out alright.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:14 am     Reply with quote
its looking good!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:37 am     Reply with quote
update



start the long hard redering process. still not sure if im doing it right though. i see craigs scetches and they look awesome and you can see the brush strokes. with min i cant help but clean them up caus i dont know what else to do. argh. well hopefully it willturn out alright.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:48 am     Reply with quote
looking great. all i could say is that you should define some of the lines more. great stuff though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:08 pm     Reply with quote


did stuff, blah blah
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:57 pm     Reply with quote
lookin pretty good! I would continue darkening like you did on his left arm, the lines in other places just don't look quite dark enough(becuase shadow on wall so dark?).

I'de put some snazzy design on his giant sword too Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:14 pm     Reply with quote
this might look like an overpaint but I actually just put on cheapo levels and saturation filters to get those lines darker

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:06 pm     Reply with quote
I liked the original best, it looks like a "knight." This one now is starting to look more like a demon out of hell. Just my opinion though. Go with what you feel. That's the joy of art Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:05 pm     Reply with quote
lol, I kinda agree that he's starting to look evil. The helmet lost detail in the transition, and now it looks kinda like he has horns and evil eyes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:01 pm     Reply with quote
toight. i wansnt going for evil. ill try to make it more like the original. thx. any more sugestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:04 am     Reply with quote
Nahh man it's looking good- I agree about the color though- it totally changes the feel of the image, but you're headed down the right path man...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:41 am     Reply with quote
his left hand is to big, and his right hand is to small.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:56 pm     Reply with quote
I like the version before weaselball2's level/sat change. I'd say put a lot more blue on the shadowed side of the knight -- it's looking to orange to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:17 am     Reply with quote


Last edited by Jonathan Wahlstedt on Tue May 22, 2007 2:15 am; edited 1 time in total
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:07 pm     Reply with quote
with the angle of the shield and the way his hand seems to be against the wall, it seems like he would fall over...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:27 pm     Reply with quote
thanks for all the comments. since there is so many problems with my pic, i really couldnt address all the problems without re-painting it, which is fine because i learned alot from this picture. So im gonna call it close. Thanks to everyone who commented, you really helped me out alot.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:49 pm     Reply with quote
some anatomy issues. also, the perspective in his body is a bit off.. Jonathan's version fixes up alot of it tho.
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