[dorian]

hola,
I searched the forums for this, because I'm pretty sure I'm not the first person who asks these questions, but didn't find anything. If there's already a thread answering the matter, please excuse me and let me know where it can be found.

I'm finishing school next year, and could then go to university somewhere, or, more likely, to an art school.

I don't know where it is best for me, I'm more into naturalistic stuff than completely abstract freaky things. I want to go on with digital stuff, but also learn how to handle oils, acrylics, watercolors, etc.
To me, it's not very clear what job I could do in the future. I can't imagine sitting in a dull agency, doing ugly stuff just as the art director wants me to do, for people I'll never get to know.
I think I'd love to do vinyl covers, skateboard decks, clothing, and painting "personal stuff" that I can sell. ..oh well...


I was at the ensba http://www.ensba.fr - "�cole nationale sup�rieure des beaux arts" in paris, and I liked it, seems to be a school that gives the students a lot of freedom.

I heard about a good school in antwerpen, but don't know which one that is. is anybody there? does anyone know more?


And: what schools that are considered "good" are there other than the two mentioned above?
Which art schools do you go to, which ones could you recommend?



Thanks a lot in advance, and, as said above, if there is already a thread answering these questions, please post the link here and accept my excuse ;]

-dorian

[Drunken Monkey]

hey dorian

have you checked out accd in europe? i cant find a website for them... but they teach exactly what they do here in LA.

some info on them [url=http://www.designet.ru/context/ac(e)-eng.zip]here[/url] (.doc in a zip)

art center college of design (europe)
chateu de sully, route de chailly 144
1814 la tour-de-peilz, switzerland
phone: 41 21 944 64 64

also look [url=http://www.designet.ru/context/context-alisa-ac(e)-1.shtml]here[/url] for some pics, article is great too, but in russian

[dorian]

thanks!
great, it's in switzerland, I'll go and check it out!


does anyone know anything about antwerpen?
or any other "good" art schools?


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[IDrawGirls]

If you want more exposure ... there are more active members at conceptart.org
There is a forum for questions about art schools.

[Greensun]

well, in holland there is this school called the Rietveld academie, I don't know if it's any fun, but I think it's worth to check out
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[dorian]

ok thanks, you two!

I'll search for infos at conceptart.com, thank you!


But this should not prevent anyone from still posting here!

[rock995]

doesn't matter what school you pick as long as it teaches solid drawing fundamentals. If you can draw, color is easy. One of the best I've seen is in Italy: The Florence Academy of Art. Taught in the old "Academie" style by good instructors. It doesn't seem to be any more expensive than most of the others in Europe. Look 'em up in Google. I was at the Repin Institute in Peter in Russia for about a year off and on and there are decent teachers there, although not as good as the one in Florence, the Repin is really cheap and it's cheap to live in Russia. If you want to come to the U.S. the Art Students League was one of the schools I was at. Also the Pratt Institute and Parsons School of Design, all in NYC are good. Needless to say, on the West Coast, the Art Center Schools rule.
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[watmough]

dont go to parsons if u want to be an illustrator.try SVA (school of visual arts)instead.

[dorian]

ok, thanks!

rock995: do you speak russian and italian, or are these english-speaking schools? the one in florence sounds quite interesting!

art center, yeah, heard good and bad things about it.
the Academy of Art University [AAU, used to be AAC - Academy of Art College] in san francisco is quite ok, too. some great people teaching there, such as
Lee ballard
zhao ming wu
james wu
henry yan
kazu sano
stephen player
chuck pyle
barbara bradley
Bill Maughn
Robert Revel
Bill Sanchez

hum and many others.. :]
ron lemen's at art center next year, I think.

watmough: ok! why not parsons? And is SVA in new york?

[dorian]

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[rock995]

English is spoken at the Florence Academy but in Russia there's not much English. I speak some Russian but still had to have an interpreter to translate my lectures in figure painting, but the instructors don't need to speak too much English because they like to take a rag, wipe out all or part of the student's work and then dig back in w/their brush...teaching by example in other words.
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[watmough]

i went to parsons.....not good for illustration...good for fashion design or fine arts...i knew fellas that went to sva (yup,its in nyc...right down the road from parsons)and it seemed like that was much more suited to an illustration student,

[cheney]

[dorian]

oh wow
that's awesome, thank you for taking the time man.

I actually draw each and every day and I hope the strong dedication does not leave me one day. If so, I would have no idea what to do else than draw and paint etc..

Ok, "look for a big school" sounds good (or logical), since there is a variety of different programs and possibilities.
Didn't hear the word "minor" before, and didn't know you can major [or minor :] in printing. Interesting.

I too started digital, [photoshop photo-manipulation and stuff at the very beginning] and then got into drawing/painting, both digital and traditional. now I'm more and more attracted to traditional media. I also think when you can do it the traditional way, it won't be too hard to do it with digital media. So I'd love to get trained in drawing and painting, particularly figurative arts. love to invent characters, tell a story with a painting etc.
Oh well, I'm loosing the topic, sorry..

[cheney]

[Jimmyjimjim]

I might be mistaken, but I thought ACCD Europe is kaput.