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Mitsui · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:30 pm

No.08

30min

stephan · member Member # Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 104

This one got completely out of hand. Embarassed

it was inspired though by M. C. Barrett. I love your sapceships =)
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ceenda your last one is awesome

fredflcikstone · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:04 pm

A demo for a student. Few hours invested, getting my Star Wars fix out of my system...I tell my digital students to take frame grabs of movies to study them for a while. They help develop color palettes quickly, and a great sense for framing...plus its a no brainer with WinDVD to get great reference instantly...

Craig-When you work on your images, say the pirate piece, or any of the images with the girl wearing mickey mouse ears, do you reference other images for lighting, or is the lighting you create invented?

I find I still need reference for color palettes when I am creating or inventing a lighting scenario. I guess not enough illustrations to merit a huge mental library. But I was wondering if you work from a source of inspiration, or is it invented colors? Especially when you are creating the beautiful reflected lighting bouncing around in your shadows...

XIA-great stuff as usual, Stephan you too...

Swarm, are you inventing all those awesome female images? I love the style you are developing, or rather, styles....

ceenda, excellent work also, and doughbot, loving the imagery...ax--hv and randis, dammmmmmm Shocked

Bill Baxter, wonderful stuff as usual. Do you do any traditional painting?

zhuzhu · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:16 pm

cake-eye · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:41 pm

great stuff guys!

fredflcikstone · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:43 pm

these three were done in the last hour. they are of Phil Holland-images he took of himself and this skull found at conceptart.org under a digital photography thread. Just a little exercise before I begin painting...heh

Craig-were there any little art center tidbits that had to do with how to manage details in a fairly complicated image? Say, one of your matte paintings. Was there ever a rule of thumb that would moderate the management of details within the image? That sounds like a rookie question, I dont know how else to word it. I guess, there is a point where too little detail could be claimed as one of two things, fine art, or lacking detail. Illustration obviously demands a higher level of details in order to please the said-directors who know-at this level of painting, is there a way to manage not overdoing everything, yet making the directors happy too? Maybe that is a better way to word it, I dunno...

THanks again craig

Ron

zhuzhu · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:52 pm

【NO.333】

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tsunami · junior member Member # Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 48

I would post some..but they all suck Sad

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Nicodemus · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:23 am

great one cake-eye !

thebrave · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:39 am

Cheers pud, its nice to be back Smile

ceenda, i love that dune one.

Bill, keep goinging, they're wicked Smile

StylesDavis · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:47 am

thebrave, i like that girl very, very much! Razz

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Mitsui · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:38 am

Fredflcikstone: impressive!

No. 09

Still need a lot of practice

Swarm · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:43 am

nice work everyone!
Fredflickstone : my realistic drawings are from life or from photo (taken by me), and others are from head...

(from head ;)

zhuzhu · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:07 am

【NO.334】

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Freebooter · member Member # Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 417

Zhuzh>> That skeletal guy with hat looks very familiar... does Brom ring a bell to you?

Summer Pudding · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:32 am

Hello shipmates,

I've got a question for you. I posted it in the propeller thread, but I guess I'll get a better response here. No time to rewrite, so here it is verbatim.

'I'm considering swallowing my pride, and buying a couple of Ryan Church's DVDs. Are they any good? I have no real, formal art education beyond high school, and wonder if they are an adequate substitute for a BA.'

I might add, that I'm not short of ideas for new pieces, and I know that a DVD couldn't possibly make me more imaginative. What I'm after is a) a more disciplined methodology, and thorough understanding of the digital tools, and b) a deeper understanding of the classical principles of form, lighting etc.

So, 'how to' DVDs, are they a help or a hinderance? Are they a useful way to accelerate the ambient learning process?

PS: I must stress here, I'm not fishing for compliments; the last thing I'm after is 'hey Pud', you're stuff's cool. Don't worry about it.'

PPS: Spyro, thanks! It started life as something totally different. I'm not saying what though.

Wink

No post without a pic eh? Here's a lunchtime brainfart. Long body, short legs. arghh! messy

Pud'

Mikko K · member Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639

Hey Pud, your stuff is cool.... haha. I'm still waiting for my Ryan Church DVD's. The company I work in ordered some a couple of months ago, dunno what the hell happened to that order. I'd also like to know if they're useful for self-training.

Angel_of_Bacon · junior member Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 19

I love working on something, and thinking that this time, yeah, I'm really getting the hang of this, and then coming to this thread and realizing I don't know nothing about anything.

Love it.

Needless to say, great work everyone!

Mon · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:39 am

ceenda> looking good! not your usual approach, but it's all good

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zhuzhu · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:49 am

【NO.335】

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XIA · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:12 am

Holy POOP!!! This page rocks @$$!!!
Thanks Cool

Too many names to mention, you know who u are.
Shocked

(I quit, can't keep up with u guys)
GREAT work guys!!!

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neff · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:14 am

nice xia

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Mikko K · member Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639

Ron, I love your stuff!

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EPigeon · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:28 am

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Reakshun · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:03 am

PUDDING (about the videos):

I think what I took from it was a decent system on how to maneuver in Painter. Setting up a few choice brushes and keeping your layers in order and working in the basic academic process Spooge had mentioned a page or so back (thumbnails, line art, tonal study, darks, lights, noodle). Then he shows you a few little tricks you've seen here or probably have done yourself. Little stuff like copying layers and pasting on themselves and erasing back into them. Using the glow brush (equivalent but better than the Dodge/BurnTool in PS). How to get cool looking atmospheric perspective by "fogging" with an airbrush.

I think the main thing I learned was just how to keep a sense of the whole. Knowing that the "whole" picture is important, not just some little over rendered man in a big metropolis. It's about how does this "scene" make me feel.

His rendering style is far different than anybody here because it's "clean". It's "painterly" only in the sense that it's "sketchy" but the "tools" he uses are clean...this isn't an exercise in texture. If you want that...check the Seegmiller book. Otherwise, He claims he's trying to get "filmic" quality in his paintings at every stage of the piece from line to tone to color to finish. So, if anything, I think it'll teach you to concentrate and think more about what is the "purpose" of your pieces and let that be the focal point.

He talks about perspective, but not in the schooling sense. More so, just to keep it mind everytime you lay down a stroke. Same goes for lighting.

Materials...he basically says that's up to you. Get the reference and start studying. The videos he has on vehicles and matte objects is just an open book as to what he's learned about their characteristics. Then, in a very cartoony type way (lights against darks), he renders it out according to the lighting conditions. The cool thing was he does it really logically. Like, "Where exactly will the sunlight hit the wing of this plane in a backlit situation?"

Instead of just slapping outta piece, it just kind of makes you just "think" about it a little bit more. But...that's nothing you haven't heard from the pros around here.

Spooge>>> I coulda sworn I saw one of your knight pieces as an advertisement for the Design Studio Press?

(shoves microphone in Mullin's mugg) So...what's the story? Are you coming out with a video???

Peace.

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nori · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:17 am

thebrave, WOW the work on your website in amazing! brilliant! very impressive.

here's a really crappy copy of a loomis gouache in creative illustration
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Meaty Ogre · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:41 pm

xia, i ordered that book. it had better be good. or else i'll come up there and adjust your monitor settings! poorly!

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geki · junior member Member # Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 44

I think I'll go back with brushes without customization ><

dougbot · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:00 pm

dumb

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Meaty Ogre · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:01 pm

after gerome + feng