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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:30 pm |
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What is the lowest number you can make out?
I gather that you should be able read down to 2, but that the left most square should be completely black (in ideal conditions with no glare). This is what I see, and my monitors a cheap iMac thing. Yet, I remember some people not being able to see some of my images at all, save for some random highlights here and there, because they were too dark.
I'd be interested to find out what other people are seeing.
I hope I haven't annoyed they guy who I stole this gray-scale from. I just pulled it right out of a a post in a WIP thread. No disrespect intended. |
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Nicodemus member
Member # Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 68 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:54 pm |
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3
i can see that there is a shape in the (2) spot but i cant actually see a 2 especially if i look right at it. |
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B0b member
Member # Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 1807 Location: Sunny Dorset, England
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:48 pm |
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on my laptop 3 |
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Alan member
Member # Joined: 05 Apr 2000 Posts: 157 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:30 pm |
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I can see down to 2, although it is a bit hard to make out.
But monitor brightness is something I've noticed many problems with. For various reasons from burnt hardware to just incorrect settings, other peoples monitors are often set too dark.
-Alan |
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B0b member
Member # Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 1807 Location: Sunny Dorset, England
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:14 am |
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on my calibrated system i can see the shade change between 1 and 2, but can't fully make out 2 |
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:33 am |
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I was expecting some more 3s and 4s in there. At the moment It's looking pretty good. |
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jfrancis member
Member # Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 443 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:11 am |
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4 is the last distinct square I can make out, but I'm on a PC, with gamma 2.2, not a mac ( gamma 1.8 ).
Evryone who voted should go back and mention which computer and which browser
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:39 am |
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I can make out the difference between 3,2 and 1, but the lowest number that is legible is 3.
Win XP, 2.20 Gamma, NEC AccuSync 70. Calibrated with Adobe Gamma. _________________ |
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B0b member
Member # Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 1807 Location: Sunny Dorset, England
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:33 am |
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sorry : calibrated system - win2k with 3Dlabs Wildcat VP870
laptop - compaq evo running XP pro (tho' i want to find time to format and stick 2k on it)
oh yeah browser = firefox
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bearsclover member
Member # Joined: 03 May 2002 Posts: 274
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:50 am |
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I can make out the 2. A little tough, but when I look hard, I can make out its entire "2" shape. The grayscale looks pretty balanced to me.
G4 Mac, OS X, Safari browser, not-terribly-fancy LCD monitor.
I calibrate the hell out of my computer and I also adjust my monitor. Not so much to get the colors "just so" (there's only so much adjusting you can do with a not-terribly-fancy LCD), but because having it too dark really bugs me. _________________ Madness takes its toll - please have exact change. |
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:28 am |
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*double post*
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:28 am |
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I'm using safari on my evil old decrepit imac. |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:40 pm |
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3 for me |
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xzacto member
Member # Joined: 20 Oct 2003 Posts: 91 Location: Rochester, New York (farmington)
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:32 pm |
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I see 2 very clearly and none of #1 _________________
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Cpt.Obvious member
Member # Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 239
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:35 pm |
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I see 3, but I can see also a spot and shape of '2' and differences between all steps _________________ You must click here |
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xheadinthecloudx member
Member # Joined: 31 Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:40 pm |
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Mac Studio Display 21" (calibrated), IE5 & Safari... same as several others. I can see 2 fairly clearly, and I can see the break between 1 and 2, but not the number 1 itself. _________________ They don't know who they're f***ing with... they're f***ing with a lean, mean, tattooed, rated-g boy scout.
-Henry Rollins |
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Alan member
Member # Joined: 05 Apr 2000 Posts: 157 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:50 am |
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viewed on a too typical PC with explorer...
and as said earlier, can see all changes pretty good.
-Alan |
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:36 am |
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logged in on one my school's computer, I can make out 5, but below it's just black! Man, monitor differences are a pain. |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:10 pm |
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just 4...oops...I should change my brightness now |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:11 pm |
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crap. double post...sorry |
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Kynes junior member
Member # Joined: 29 Feb 2004 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:13 pm |
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Do Mac's not have a different Gamma setting than Windows PCs?
IIRC, gamma levels on the Mac are slightly brighter than the PC. So if you're doing medium values on a Mac, it might appear a little darker on the PC.
I dunno. Just offering ideas. _________________ -- formerly ceenda |
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:19 pm |
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Sure, kynes. it's only a pretty vague test though.. was just interested in generalities. Probably other factors other than gamma, ie. rubbish monitor brightness settings, probably mean that overall the gamma differences won't affect much. |
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McKack junior member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 44 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:45 am |
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Heh, Hi I see you've made a post about this little thing:) With my picture as well, no problem. But yeah guys you should be able to read the 2 or 3 at least. And btw, the first number isn't 1... It's 0.38:P _________________ Time out of mind
http://www.kimpix.tk |
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:14 pm |
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I can barely make out 2. 1 is totally black. |
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merlyns member
Member # Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 524 Location: the netherlands -_-
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:16 am |
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3. I can see a 2 shape.
-david _________________
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Duracel member
Member # Joined: 08 Mar 2001 Posts: 910 Location: Germany - near Minster
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:27 pm |
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I can barely see any changes form 1 to 2, but 3 (up to 9) is clear visible.
Most people seem to have such settings, because most pictures looks quite good to me. _________________ Lars G�tze
www.duracel.de Gallery
Detailling a speedpainting is nothing but speedpainting in detail. |
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turtle junior member
Member # Joined: 31 Aug 2003 Posts: 4 Location: Paris
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:34 am |
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freaky! i can barely see 4..
i guess i 'll have to do something about it.. |
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Mari member
Member # Joined: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 135 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:44 am |
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I figure it's a little different on LCD screens than on other screens... I have an LCD screen which has "auto adjust" function and I can make out till 3. I do see a slightly blacker bit in the square where "2" should be, but that's only if I stare long. |
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Javerh junior member
Member # Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:19 am |
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If I tweak all settings to unusable proportions, I can see 3. With normal settings I can see 5. Just goes to show that I need a new monitor. |
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treeboy junior member
Member # Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Posts: 44 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:05 pm |
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i can see the 2 but its a bit hard to see, i can very easily see the value change between 1 and 2 _________________ Hey Man, Nice Shot
~filter |
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