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neff member
Member # Joined: 11 May 2002 Posts: 1444 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:09 am |
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spooge O_o
Wow, but i dont believe its a speedy
So i post a not-speedy too )
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noxi member
Member # Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 281 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:03 am |
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StylesDavis member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: New-Welver City, Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:36 am |
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@buki:
...but it was another picture or a zoomed version or...too lazy to proof it because it's anywhere on my harddrive and i don't know where... _________________ known as "ChrisNix" elsewhere. |
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:51 pm |
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Dsg ... about 10 or 15 minutes I guess.
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Drunken Monkey member
Member # Joined: 08 Feb 2000 Posts: 1016 Location: mothership
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:24 pm |
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o'sensei spooge, thanks for dispensing so much art advice lately!
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nexykun member
Member # Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 85
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:44 pm |
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spooge demon member
Member # Joined: 15 Nov 1999 Posts: 1475 Location: Haiku, HI, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 5:43 pm |
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it was a speedy, thats why the perspective was all over. NFS got one pass on those.
mr Monkey you are welcome, wondering if anyone reads that stuff
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Mikko K member
Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:05 pm |
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Spooge> I read everything I can, sometimes I save your comments to documents for later reference. You know, a lot of people myself included have never had any useful art training.
I realized I simply can't use much color before I get a better hang of values.
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 7:13 pm |
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EA sure likes to recruit CG celebrities, eh? They had Stahlberg do the girls in NFS Underground, and also Habib Zargarpour who did the cars. That's 3 celebrities in one game. YET, they didn't advertise the fact in the marketing department--which leads me to believe that their marketing department is kinda clueless(but then again, EA games keep selling like hot cakes. . ..). Or maybe they just think CG fanboys pirate their games anyway? |
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Gecko member
Member # Joined: 07 Mar 2000 Posts: 876 Location: Finland
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digitaldecoy member
Member # Joined: 08 Nov 2002 Posts: 118 Location: germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:36 am |
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I don�t know. In my understanding, speedpainting is not necessarily about the time a picture takes but more about the process I guess. I normally use to make very elaborate drawings for my paintings and this way they always turn out a little stiff and unanimate.
On this painting I started with a faint idea, used spooges tip on working over some random surface and just let my belly make the decisions. Perspective and composition may be off at some spots but I really like the result. I painted about six hours on this one but to me it does "feel" like a speed painting because I never had the feeling of "working" on a detail but everything stays kinda loose and improvised (what you probably can not see in this copy because the original resolution is about 3000 pixels wide).
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Swarm member
Member # Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 336 Location: Paris
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:42 am |
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spooge demon wrote: |
mr Monkey you are welcome, wondering if anyone reads that stuff |
Yes I read that "stuff", and I learn a lot from you!
(even if I don't always understand because of my bad english ;)
Mikko k : nice study.
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Gecko member
Member # Joined: 07 Mar 2000 Posts: 876 Location: Finland
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:11 am |
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dideco: that's very good, i like it. and i very much agree with your definition of 'speed painting' _________________ Gecko
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Mikko K member
Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:59 am |
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Lunatique> I think the majority of their target audience is not interested who did what. The fact cg-people probably know their stahlbergs doesn't mean your average sports car fan does. They need Vin Diesel. |
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spooge demon member
Member # Joined: 15 Nov 1999 Posts: 1475 Location: Haiku, HI, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:06 am |
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mikko, that is awesome!
man you save that stuff? I better put a sock in it.
There was a mention of "Oscar nominated" somewhere in the press drivel, about Habib. I don't know where SS's work turned out. It was a BG in a "tips" PDF, but don't know where else. Might have been a mag cover?
I am always amazed that concept art is commissioned. The stuff I did actually did influence the game, but what I did was kind of obvious to me. Street, reflections, dark, sprinkle lights. But the people I do them for really seem to think they are useful, so I take them at that.
I did fire up the demo and it is a pretty neat game, and it looks cool. I am enjoying playing it! Don't know if I will spring for 50 bucks, but it would be fun.
to me speed painting is any painting that does not have work done to it to disguise the fact that there are parts you don't understand. The old illustration standard was you could make the most awful tripe in the world, and if was "tight and clean" it was OK. If you can succesfully simplify something, you understand it. If you don't, you will wiggle it, smudge it, put some more highlights and contrast on it, dodge it, render it more, blah blah.
Or maybe it is work finished until more work would bleed the life out of it, as you have to do in illustration work.
more peter pan stuff I was fired after I turned these in
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neff member
Member # Joined: 11 May 2002 Posts: 1444 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:40 am |
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You was fired? 0_0
D'oh, every single year a new Peter Pan Movie, thats so stupid
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:05 am |
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ok boys I�m back.
zhuzhu, we had a nice painting combat in the CA speedy, keep up the good work zhuzhu.
Spooge, that yellow jeep you posted earlier was really awesome and gaved me a lot of ideas, thank you.
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:34 am |
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I just tried out OC before Christmas and had a sketch session with a guy over in the chat, pretty cool stuff and it is very fun to sketch with others.
Here�s one I just did today and I am just messing around with the program at the moment, would be fun if custom brushes could be used.
Here�s the wpe file:
http://www.lensflares.net/SpeedPaintings/Matt3.wpe
Here�s the thread concerning OC over at CA, you can also find the OC stuff overthere. I guess the most of you know about this thread but I am posting it anyway.
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10969
later
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UnAlternate member
Member # Joined: 28 Sep 2003 Posts: 77 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:45 am |
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i don't seem to be going anywhere with this. :/
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noxi member
Member # Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 281 Location: Finland
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:55 am |
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Too tired to comment anything else but, truly awesome work everyone!
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StylesDavis member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: New-Welver City, Germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:10 pm |
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damn spooge- the "downtown" pic remembered me that i would cut off my balls if i could get your knowledge.
i remember dusseault did a birdview-citypic and when i looked at it i wished that you would do such a scene. ha, seems to be christmas time... *licka*s*
ps.: of course i wouldn't cut off my balls. but a finger, perhaps.  _________________ known as "ChrisNix" elsewhere. |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:28 pm |
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I have always had a weak point, my cryptonite, and that is to paint and draw vehicles.
another OC practise, think I will throw it in in the CA too.
http://www.lensflares.net/SpeedPaintings/Matt4.wpe
tv time and then sleeping time right, about, now.....muahahaha, Trogdor Strikes again...muahahaha. ok I should perhaps break that tv into two.
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Fiend member
Member # Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Posts: 270 Location: CPH - Denmark
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:29 pm |
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A real quicky
great work everyone - too fast for me. _________________ Yeah man but it's a dry heat... |
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Mikko K member
Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:54 pm |
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Spooge> You gotta be kidding, they fired you?
This lady got old and ugly after hearing that
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starglider2 member
Member # Joined: 19 Mar 2002 Posts: 275 Location: belgium
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:06 pm |
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SpoogeDeamon, You got fired after u turned these proposal sketches in ?? What isq it that "they" wanted ? More childish, easier readable pictures ? please explain !! _________________ If there is no God, who pops up the next kleenex in the box?
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digitaldecoy member
Member # Joined: 08 Nov 2002 Posts: 118 Location: germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:21 pm |
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@ Spooge Demon:
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If you don't, you will wiggle it, smudge it, put some more highlights and contrast on it, dodge it, render it more, blah blah. |
I don�t know if it�s ok to ask this but did you intend these words in any way to be a comment on my painting? It could also be meant generally but I think you hit the nail on the head concerning my painting. I realy have this unsatisfied feeling about the result after reeding your post which comes from the fact that I actually did a lot of tweaking, texture overlaying and color overlaying on the painting. It�s like playing golf when you�re hitting the ball into the bunker and then try to get it out somehow, aimless, totally losing control of the game.
What would you say, is it possible to nail down a light situation in the very first minutes of a painting? Should building up the forms of the figure be three simple steps - dark silhouette, highlights bounce light - and then not touching the general look anymore just adding detail on a secondary (less visually important) level? I ask this because I always work like starting dark and then gradually "adding light" to the objects. But that means to start in a different lighting situation than the end result will be. I read like every tutorial you wrote and that constantly is my question about your paintings: is this the key - nailing it down in the very first steps? Concerning my orc over there that would have meant to fill the figure in as exacly as possible the same tone as it is meant to turn out at the end, isn�t it? No highlight pushing, flattening the highlights out, new layer of highlights, modelling the form step by step - just marking the dark and the light and then ... doing the transition?
Man I hope anyone can find any sense in my crappy english writing.
A comment on this would really help me to get on track again... _________________ �Que la fuerza te acompa�e! |
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wigin member
Member # Joined: 23 Sep 2000 Posts: 408 Location: Ottawa Ontario
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:59 pm |
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Hmm man i NEVER post here.. GREAT post everyone.
Spooge. I really like those peterpan concepts cool stuff.. Too bad they fired you. Im a peterpan fan. would have loved to see MOre peterpan stuff from one of my favorite artists.. MAybe on your free time do some peter pan speed paintings ? nudge nudge? =p
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Mikko K member
Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:04 pm |
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digitaldecoy> I didn't get the impression of Spooge commenting your orc with that. I admit that I too often do just as he said, try to hide poor design with texture and dodging etc. I know it would be more useful to spend that time thinking about lighting & form than rendering more useless detail.
I think your pic was pretty good in that style! Lotsa color etc. |
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Cpt.Obvious member
Member # Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 239
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:06 pm |
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spooge I don't have to say that your art is amazing, everybody knows that. Quite new here from september in CG and watching your and all of yours here learned something about painting ( I hope so ) I have only one question to you and would be happy if you answer. How many years took you to gain such skills, know that's stupid question, and know that way before me is quite long and very difficult. Just want some day be like you or even better (god bless me if I can) I know that I'm at the bottom of a mountain, when Ur at the top. Just forgive my curiosity.
I like the fiend one, nice lady, and digitaldecoy, another great pieace of art, wish I could perform colors like U.
And here's some of main, studies are awful and small part of time for painting...
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Prometheus-ANJ member
Member # Joined: 06 May 2001 Posts: 157 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:55 pm |
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I feel I have to quote Tony Tiger, "GGGRREEAAAT!". This thread is candy for the eye.
Made a while ago, but only posted in obscure threads:
These are fun to do since you don't have to worry about anything... just let the brush wander around putting knobs here and there. Since you only have to paint half of the image to finish it, it can be done really fast, plus you get a surprise once you flip it together. I like surprising myself.
Kid icarus is underestimated. OC crashes too much. Printscreen is my saviour. I should update PS5.5 to 7.0?
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