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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:09 am     Reply with quote
spooge O_o
Wow, but i dont believe its a speedy Wink
So i post a not-speedy too Smile)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:36 am     Reply with quote
@buki: Very Happy

...but it was another picture or a zoomed version or...too lazy to proof it because it's anywhere on my harddrive and i don't know where...Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:51 pm     Reply with quote
Dsg ... about 10 or 15 minutes I guess.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:24 pm     Reply with quote
o'sensei spooge, thanks for dispensing so much art advice lately!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:44 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 5:43 pm     Reply with quote
it was a speedy, thats why the perspective was all over. NFS got one pass on those.

mr Monkey you are welcome, wondering if anyone reads that stuff

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:05 pm     Reply with quote
Spooge> I read everything I can, sometimes I save your comments to documents for later reference. You know, a lot of people myself included have never had any useful art training.

I realized I simply can't use much color before I get a better hang of values.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2003 7:13 pm     Reply with quote
EA sure likes to recruit CG celebrities, eh? They had Stahlberg do the girls in NFS Underground, and also Habib Zargarpour who did the cars. That's 3 celebrities in one game. YET, they didn't advertise the fact in the marketing department--which leads me to believe that their marketing department is kinda clueless(but then again, EA games keep selling like hot cakes. . ..). Or maybe they just think CG fanboys pirate their games anyway?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:30 am     Reply with quote
go mikko go

yes, spooge we read your comments
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:36 am     Reply with quote
I don�t know. In my understanding, speedpainting is not necessarily about the time a picture takes but more about the process I guess. I normally use to make very elaborate drawings for my paintings and this way they always turn out a little stiff and unanimate.

On this painting I started with a faint idea, used spooges tip on working over some random surface and just let my belly make the decisions. Perspective and composition may be off at some spots but I really like the result. I painted about six hours on this one but to me it does "feel" like a speed painting because I never had the feeling of "working" on a detail but everything stays kinda loose and improvised (what you probably can not see in this copy because the original resolution is about 3000 pixels wide).


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:42 am     Reply with quote
spooge demon wrote:


mr Monkey you are welcome, wondering if anyone reads that stuff



Yes I read that "stuff", and I learn a lot from you!

(even if I don't always understand because of my bad english ;)

Mikko k : nice study.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:11 am     Reply with quote


dideco: that's very good, i like it. and i very much agree with your definition of 'speed painting'
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:59 am     Reply with quote
Lunatique> I think the majority of their target audience is not interested who did what. The fact cg-people probably know their stahlbergs doesn't mean your average sports car fan does. They need Vin Diesel.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:06 am     Reply with quote
mikko, that is awesome!

man you save that stuff? I better put a sock in it.

There was a mention of "Oscar nominated" somewhere in the press drivel, about Habib. I don't know where SS's work turned out. It was a BG in a "tips" PDF, but don't know where else. Might have been a mag cover?

I am always amazed that concept art is commissioned. The stuff I did actually did influence the game, but what I did was kind of obvious to me. Street, reflections, dark, sprinkle lights. But the people I do them for really seem to think they are useful, so I take them at that.

I did fire up the demo and it is a pretty neat game, and it looks cool. I am enjoying playing it! Don't know if I will spring for 50 bucks, but it would be fun.

to me speed painting is any painting that does not have work done to it to disguise the fact that there are parts you don't understand. The old illustration standard was you could make the most awful tripe in the world, and if was "tight and clean" it was OK. If you can succesfully simplify something, you understand it. If you don't, you will wiggle it, smudge it, put some more highlights and contrast on it, dodge it, render it more, blah blah.

Or maybe it is work finished until more work would bleed the life out of it, as you have to do in illustration work.

more peter pan stuff I was fired after I turned these in






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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:40 am     Reply with quote
You was fired? 0_0
D'oh, every single year a new Peter Pan Movie, thats so stupid Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:05 am     Reply with quote
ok boys I�m back. Smile

zhuzhu, we had a nice painting combat in the CA speedy, keep up the good work zhuzhu.

Spooge, that yellow jeep you posted earlier was really awesome and gaved me a lot of ideas, thank you.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:34 am     Reply with quote
I just tried out OC before Christmas and had a sketch session with a guy over in the chat, pretty cool stuff and it is very fun to sketch with others.
Here�s one I just did today and I am just messing around with the program at the moment, would be fun if custom brushes could be used.


Here�s the wpe file:
http://www.lensflares.net/SpeedPaintings/Matt3.wpe

Here�s the thread concerning OC over at CA, you can also find the OC stuff overthere. I guess the most of you know about this thread but I am posting it anyway.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10969

later
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:45 am     Reply with quote
i don't seem to be going anywhere with this. :/


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:55 am     Reply with quote
Too tired to comment anything else but, truly awesome work everyone!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:10 pm     Reply with quote
damn spooge- the "downtown" pic remembered me that i would cut off my balls if i could get your knowledge.
i remember dusseault did a birdview-citypic and when i looked at it i wished that you would do such a scene. ha, seems to be christmas time... *licka*s*

ps.: of course i wouldn't cut off my balls. but a finger, perhaps. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:28 pm     Reply with quote
I have always had a weak point, my cryptonite, and that is to paint and draw vehicles.
another OC practise, think I will throw it in in the CA too.


http://www.lensflares.net/SpeedPaintings/Matt4.wpe

tv time and then sleeping time right, about, now.....muahahaha, Trogdor Strikes again...muahahaha. ok I should perhaps break that tv into two.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:29 pm     Reply with quote
A real quicky



great work everyone - too fast for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:54 pm     Reply with quote
Spooge> You gotta be kidding, they fired you?

This lady got old and ugly after hearing that

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:06 pm     Reply with quote
SpoogeDeamon, You got fired after u turned these proposal sketches in ?? What isq it that "they" wanted ? More childish, easier readable pictures ? please explain !!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:21 pm     Reply with quote
@ Spooge Demon:

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If you don't, you will wiggle it, smudge it, put some more highlights and contrast on it, dodge it, render it more, blah blah.


I don�t know if it�s ok to ask this but did you intend these words in any way to be a comment on my painting? It could also be meant generally but I think you hit the nail on the head concerning my painting. I realy have this unsatisfied feeling about the result after reeding your post which comes from the fact that I actually did a lot of tweaking, texture overlaying and color overlaying on the painting. It�s like playing golf when you�re hitting the ball into the bunker and then try to get it out somehow, aimless, totally losing control of the game.
What would you say, is it possible to nail down a light situation in the very first minutes of a painting? Should building up the forms of the figure be three simple steps - dark silhouette, highlights bounce light - and then not touching the general look anymore just adding detail on a secondary (less visually important) level? I ask this because I always work like starting dark and then gradually "adding light" to the objects. But that means to start in a different lighting situation than the end result will be. I read like every tutorial you wrote and that constantly is my question about your paintings: is this the key - nailing it down in the very first steps? Concerning my orc over there that would have meant to fill the figure in as exacly as possible the same tone as it is meant to turn out at the end, isn�t it? No highlight pushing, flattening the highlights out, new layer of highlights, modelling the form step by step - just marking the dark and the light and then ... doing the transition?
Man I hope anyone can find any sense in my crappy english writing. Sad

A comment on this would really help me to get on track again...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:59 pm     Reply with quote
Hmm man i NEVER post here.. GREAT post everyone.

Spooge. I really like those peterpan concepts cool stuff.. Too bad they fired you. Im a peterpan fan. would have loved to see MOre peterpan stuff from one of my favorite artists.. MAybe on your free time do some peter pan speed paintings ? nudge nudge? =p

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:04 pm     Reply with quote
digitaldecoy> I didn't get the impression of Spooge commenting your orc with that. I admit that I too often do just as he said, try to hide poor design with texture and dodging etc. I know it would be more useful to spend that time thinking about lighting & form than rendering more useless detail.

I think your pic was pretty good in that style! Lotsa color etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:06 pm     Reply with quote
spooge I don't have to say that your art is amazing, everybody knows that. Quite new here from september in CG and watching your and all of yours here learned something about painting ( I hope so Smile ) I have only one question to you and would be happy if you answer. How many years took you to gain such skills, know that's stupid question, and know that way before me is quite long and very difficult. Just want some day be like you or even better (god bless me if I can) I know that I'm at the bottom of a mountain, when Ur at the top. Just forgive my curiosity.

I like the fiend one, nice lady, and digitaldecoy, another great pieace of art, wish I could perform colors like U.

And here's some of main, studies are awful and small part of time for painting...


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:55 pm     Reply with quote
I feel I have to quote Tony Tiger, "GGGRREEAAAT!". This thread is candy for the eye.


Made a while ago, but only posted in obscure threads:

These are fun to do since you don't have to worry about anything... just let the brush wander around putting knobs here and there. Since you only have to paint half of the image to finish it, it can be done really fast, plus you get a surprise once you flip it together. I like surprising myself.


Kid icarus is underestimated. OC crashes too much. Printscreen is my saviour. I should update PS5.5 to 7.0?

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