[spooge demon]

Hmm, thanks everyone, glad you like it. Once again, I can never figure out what people will like or dislike, which is one of the great things about posting here.


Xia, here is a progress pic, about 20 minutes into it. At the time I was saving flattened versions so I could go back and forth between painter and PS. It was still lying about. Don�t know if it answers any questions or not.

My problem with the image is similar to another one I did in a similar style a while ago. The more specific you get, the better the drawing has to be, or the more nit picky, which I hate doing. For instance, the model was about 55-60 years old, and I did pretty much invent her face from scratch, as a challenge. But look at her shoulders, the angle we are looking at them is down considerably. The face is in flat profile. Can this happen? Yes, but do you want to paint a chance occurrence or paint something that reads well and feels solid? That is part of drawing that can be tough and requires that you know anatomy very well. Most artists who know better would not even try it. I could do it looser, but the anatomy of the shoulders is quite specific, and I had the model there so I could even design things a little more. The head, the neck, ugh. I think it is pretty clear that the anatomy of the neck is way to general and looks more like a tube than a neck. Again, I was trying to make up something, the neck of a 20 year old from the neck of a 60 year old. Easy to do really if you are not being finished with things. So that is why I got my ass kicked by what I don�t know, as usual.

I remember some illustration students were asking Drew Struzan for some �secrets.� He sighed and said OK, take plenty of really good reference, done by a professional photographer, and have all of it professionally printed in 8x10. He would spend a couple of grand on photography for a poster job, and if the ref of the stars was not adequate, he would not take the job. And he would never agree to change the stars expression, lighting, angle etc. I think he would in a sketch, but never a finished poster. An there are few people more technically capable than him. So there you have it, I�m tilting at windmills again.

Socar, your feeling of form in your drawings is getting so much better. Are you sensing this?

[Mari]

Spooge! I LOVE YOUR NINJAS!! They're cool!
And the lighting in that pic with the woman near the sword is very nice

[Fiend]

Spooge - Great to see some of the process, everybody should show their process once in a while even if just in tumbs (a process-thread prehaps), lovely picture by the way.
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[Popeye]

xia and styledavis:thanks!

the biggest creature ever exists

[AndyT]

Fiend: Have you seen this thread? You mean something like that?
Somebody should bump it.
http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=34409

My image is loosely based on this image:
http://www.buffyworld.com/angel/sea.../lineage019.php
yes very loosely!

I like the idea I had but I can't realize ideas yet.
Maybe I'll get back to this in a year or two.
The thing in the left hand (his right) is supposed to be a shotgun pointing at the chin of a demon.
Done for the conceptart.org DSG btw.


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[zhuzhu]

spooge demon:

thanks for share this useful process! it's very kind of you.

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[Fiend]

Great link Andy, mayby I will give it a go one of these days.
zhuzhu - nice one
Sorry, next time I will post a picture instead of textspaming!!
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[MCnasto]

great stuff everyone!
heres a quick one i did in media writing class of my friend wiz:

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[Mon]

socar> wonderful

spooge> great work! But I must ask you, will you be going back to where this came from? http://www.goodbrush.com/gallery/albums/sketches/woman.jpg
I might be imagining things, but this strikes me as being set apart from the rest of your work. Lots pain in the making I guess, but so much life!


Another one of those deer-in-headlight nudes that fill up the internet. The girl wanted to crawl out of her skin, no joy or presence here... Looking at it I felt like shooting the photographer for being an irresponsible asshole, then I got the notion that I could fill up that void and put it to some sort of use.

I'd say it was a 25% success. The rest is just me, being the same kind of irresponsible asshole. Might be that I'm biting off more than I can chew at this point.
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[XIA]

MON>> Holy MON! Hot looking lady!

SPOOGE>> Thank you very much for the tip and process. Damn, it's pretty impressive that you can reverse 55-60 years old into early 20 years old lady.
I also really love the skin on that image, very very well excuted, especially you make it look convincingly a really young skin and all. Thanks again, until next time.

SEE, MAX K, Matthew>> Thanks guys

SEE>> Sorry, I guess I shouldn't call a young lady crap, huh.

Matthew>> Keep it up, kid you've come a long way!

M.C. Barette>> That's one slicky sick SALAMANDER!!!

Flapstrap, Cake-eye, Dr. Docker>> What Kids !? Does this place look like an AMUSEMENT PARK to you? Get back to work!!! Great job on the lady Flaps, seriously love the color scheme.

Here is something something:

[balistic]

"HEADLINE - BALISTIC DOES AN ACTUAL SPEED PAINTING FROM LIFE INSTEAD OF OVERROUGHT FAIRY SHIT - WORLD REELS - CHAOS RAMPANT"



should've composed it better, but its a start.
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[Socar MYLES]

Wish I were, spooge...that last drawing was a few months old. Just didn't bother scanning it till yesterday. Ha! I must be getting worse!

Thanks, though!

Maybe I've just been trying too hard lately.
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[Matthew]

Socar, hehe. :)

Balistic, Jesus, very good. :D

XIA, thank you, hehe, I am no kid though. :)

Hell, we had Color theory today and I suck big-time, I suck at this too.


btw I have seen some stuff from a Norwegian painter who lived during the middle 19th century, really awesome and his last-name was Tideman, I suggest you guys check him up.
Later
Matthew

[XIA]

Matthew>> Really like that one. Well, I pretty much call most of my friend, kid for some reason. I felt like I am 62 sometimes.

Popeye>> Totally agree with you, Spooge should put out "A BOOK", though I have pretty much all the great stuff in here (from you guys ) on my hard drive. I still want a REAL BOOK.

Here is one more...I screwed up on study from life last night. errrrrrrrr

[idiran]

doodling around in painter...*doesn't have a clue*

[Popeye]

[Meaty Ogre]

i'm glad i can count on this thread.

[Mari]

Fiend > Unfortunately that's the only thing I can do.. text spam.

[jayceeL]

speeeedpaint.....



ref used.

[Fiend]

Here's a picture and almost no text


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[zlu]

[XIA]

ZLU>> Yeah! beautiful color choice. You are probably one of the few who can pull those palette off beautifully.

[spyroteknik]

popeye, impressive stuff

[lucasgraciano]

WOW! Some amazing stuff happening here. Here's one, about 2hrs in Painter. It's from a pic online.

[Frost]

(not as fast as I hoped)

[M. C. Barrett]

I had intended for this arapaima to be of a similarly monstrous scale to the salamander, but with no wriggling, hapless land-meat for scale, it could probably just be a regular 10-foot arapaima in really shallow water.

[cake-eye]

nice arapaima. but you're right you really need a hapless land-meat-bag in there.

[Socar MYLES]

Stupid question break: what's an arapaima?
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[YourMum]

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