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spooge demon · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:31 am

C, I would say ID is more important to me than Illustration. There are some important caveats. Look at how Trans guys draw figures. Nuffsaid. With the exception of the life/figure classes, Illustration was kind of a wasteland. BUT, look at the work I do, and it is not very conceptual, depends more on traditional drawing and painting. The illus program was trying it best to get people to do anything but more airbrush ad Ill, anything but Loomis, anything to move illustration �forward� Matt Mahurin was the golden standard. Before you think I am being sarcastic, I am not, really. It is a little sad that all of my ID cohorts are doing well in the profession they were trained for, but my illo ones are not working much at all, with a few exceptions. Art Center is gambling, for it�s own glory, to produce an original illustrator, The One how can fly and hang in galleries and get the respect of fine artists that they crave so much. Never underestimate the inferiority complex of the illustration world. I am a shining example! But you have to go through a lot of lost failures to get the peach.

I was glad to have the Illo training that I had, it made me a better artist, certainly more aware. But it left me with not enough skills. I guess there is only so much you can cram into one program. Take classes in both programs! They don�t like this, a Frankenstein like me might result. But push all you can. And remember, don�t depend on anyone or any school to learn you what you need. The best people are the ones who suck the information out of a place, who look for it. The failures are the ones who sit back and whine that the program is no good.

I did take some classes art California Art Institute, mostly for information of technique. You could do the same.

The class that was so great in ID was the basic shapes and lighting class. It was called Industrial drawing then, now with correct speak that calls a library a learning center it was renamed VisCom 1, or Visual Communications 1. Not very pretentious at all, IMHO. Don�t know what it is called now.

�Sir, the Virgins are ready�.�

�Oh excellent, I will be there is a jiffy!��

southern · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:33 am

I haven't done much speed work for a few months so I need to shake of the dust a little.

Glen

StylesDavis · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:40 am

LOL, spooge, is that the dalai lama? Very Happy

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neff · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:55 am

fascinated of zlu's works Razz

spooge, you're getting to abstract Wink

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Matthew · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:54 am

Spooge, sorry about me keep copying your style, just a few more then I will start on another style.

I made a quick sketch in school so this one only took about 15 minutes to color.

Matthew

Dawi · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:18 am

I know, I know. This is just blatant overuse of oversaturated colors and contrast. But, well, I was in a playful mood�

zlu · member Member # Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 57

thanx for the comments :) .

I need to sleep..

XIA · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:45 am

Zlu>> Yes, you do. You getting too good.

Mathew>> Thanks, you are progressing pretty fast. Good for you...persistance and hard work is a good quality of men.

StereoPhoenix>> Thanks, I try...but I failed you. Really love that piece..less is more.

Great work guys Shocked

Another quickie:

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zlu: ssiiicccckkkkk dddog

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Fiend · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 11:39 am

Great work everyone.

I started doing a speedpainting but it wasn't even worth spending the time posting so here is something from the archives.
An almost two year old drawing (AND IT'S NOT EVEN A SPEED PAINTINg - SORRY!!!)

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Swarm · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:35 pm

Spooge, Zlu, Xia : nice :)

cake-eye · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:11 pm

great work everyone! about time i do something.

Fiend · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:39 pm

decided to do a quick one and post it not matter the result...

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Bg · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:38 pm

Had to wait a couple of lightyears while all the new pages loaded.. definitely worth it once again Shocked

HPX (those nipples must be lethal), Flushgarden, Isric, Sparth, Spooge, awesome pics as always.
Wassup, the knight is incredible!
Matthew: Love that bird.

Would have very much liked to work on Terry Gilliams' new movie "The Brothers Grimm" but can't, damn army.. sniff..

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prismacolor3 · Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:19 pm

I'm always inspired when I visit.
Zlu - keep 'em coming!
Spooge, thanks for taking time to respond to folks...it's nice to see.
Someday I too will eventually figure out Painter...

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spooge demon · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:00 am

I had the "abstract" setting up high on that last one, about 90. This one is dialed back to 38.

Dali Lama? Hmmm I just know they are going to catch that guy with his pants around his ankles in a motel in Inglewood.

no problem prismacolor, spread the pain is my motto

zlu · member Member # Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 57

thx everyone :)

Mikko K · member Member # Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 639

Spooge :
Do you often adjust your picture's brightness/contrast settings when painting the dark areas? So that you paint the darks brighter than the final image is going to be?

I'm curious because you seem to have so much content in the darks, while many people paint too much black in shadows imho. I'd really appreciate if you could answer me.

btw. sorry for no pic, been too busy with work stuff I can't show Sad

Swarm · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:00 am

Spooge : O_O

Zlu : great :)

kobalt · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:43 am

70'

Mari · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:46 am

Cool work everyone.

I'm new to this whole forum but I got here for improvement, so I might as well just post stuff.
This was done in 30 minutes which is REALLY quick for me. I'm the slowest artist out there! =) Ahem...
Anyway... His one fin is off but it was a quicky and it got a little out of hand.

PS. I just changed my name. Might change it back. I'm a little whimsical sometimes ^_^ I mean... Even "Oracle" isn't that interesting.

Fiend · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:09 am

spooge - how sweet
zlu - like it - more weird jungle
swarm - that cool. Is it a real painting in the background?

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Mari · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:22 am

This one's not good either but I just have to accept I can never be as good as you guys anyway Laughing

Fiend: That rocks! =)

This was done in about 13 mins. I still suck. Very Happy

Especially when it comes to blood (the red mess. I felt like blood)

Pringle · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:42 am

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Max · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 10:22 am

XIA: awesome! -- here is my lady

Duracel: I like that
Matthew: nice stuff

great work everyone!

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Mari · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 11:41 am

I know that girl! Saw her in the Kill Bill trailer.

How come everyone loves an ugly girl like that? Asian girls get WAY prettier.

Said a girl. Who is not pretty herself. *shame*

Keating · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 12:14 pm

Practicing cityscapes has made me sad, since I'm so lousy at it. To make myself feel better, I started this. I'll probably work it to completion eventually, but here's the quick version.

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cake-eye · Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:55 pm