[kenchan]

xia wow, that is one of the best i've seen you do! You captured her really well. And the strokes are consistent throughout the piece.
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[deepsea37]

nice one Xia! (hey... are you and kenchan mates??!! same model...same pose... hmmm.)

beautiful Varnum.

Wazzup, nice. High expectations after the beautiful paints you put together.

a few gestures, in no particular order:

[AbcArt]

It is good to see so many Seattle posts. Wassup you draw beautifully don't put yourself down. Varnum very nice. Good one Xia you keep getting better. Ken you also got a nice one last night.

[AbcArt]

[cyBeAr]

Maybe if I spam this thread some of your skills will rub off on me.....

1min to loooooong (last one)

[malakyte]

awesome stuff everyone...
here are tonights struggles...

[electroganic]

deepsea37: those are some nice gestures (I like the vertical layout too)
AbcArt: your drawings have a nice graphic design element to them, very clean, the absents of certain contours reads realy well; and your oils are great, you handle color as good as you draw.
cyBeAr: nice stuff, 5th from the bottom's my favorite...spam away
malakyte: your struggles are good, I especialy like the first one nice bold lines

my attempts from tonight...starting to get comfortable with the vine charcaol

[XIA]

Electroganic>> Great stuff.

Malakyte>> I really dig your gesture, that's awesome.

CyBeAr>> good stuff, keep it up.

ABCart>> Whao! the jedi himself is here. Thanks

Deepsea>> Thanks, I am trying. Your gesture are awesome. (Yep I know Kenchan. We go to the same session in Seattle. ABCart and Varnum also, except those two are way too good. Ken and I are rookies, and still learning from those guys)


Kenchan>> Thanks dude, you've come a long way yourself.

More Gesture Craps:

[XIA]

...Sorry, push the wrong button.

[deepsea37]

damn Xia, sounds like quite a crew at that life session! I am a spokane boy originally (only those from Seattle would have ever heard of spokane though). Living in Ireland now, but the weather is the same as seattle.

nice work everybody. Special kudos to ABCart ... shit man, great stuff.
struggled last night, here are the best of a sour lot.

[AbcArt]

Thanks deepsea37. I like your stuff also. So how did you get from Spokane to Ireland. I am currently trying to move to the UK hopefully somewhere around London or Oxford but I am not having much luck. It seems that most of the companies I have talked to don't want to go through the Visa hassle.

[DL-44]

lovely thread.

this one's rather old. unfortunately it's the only thing still intact from my life drawing classes, and was about a 20 minute drawing done when I had free time after the long pose - same pose from a different angle. Wish I had the long drawing still.... =(

[varnum]

kenchan, those little gestures are great! good to see you working pushing and pulling with the background in your painting... variety of marks will make it sing even more. skin is not cloth is not cement wall! great progress. :)

wassup... that last one is beautiful. what you're doing is more than good!

deepsea37, wonderful!

electroganic, nice work

AbcArt, youir paintings and drawings are motivating! makes me want to pull out the paints

XIA, those sepia sketches are very cool

cyBeAr, good balance and confidence in the top few... keep attacking







and the least muddy watercolor of the day...

[wasssup]

thanks all! i promise ill TRY to keep with you guys thou it seems too hard for me

varnum>> dreadlocks!!! i love every single piece of your drawings, plz dont never abandon us
abcart>> same goes to you, i just keep watchin and watchin, learning what to draw, what not to
xia>> those gesture studies are very nice indeed
deepsea>> i like the comps in your drawings, remind me of some underground comics, interesting!

*damn, what do your guys eat in Seatle???*

a couple of 5-10 min posts




some anatomy studies, ref used

[Popeye]

varnum:i dont know how to express how much i love your drawing. they are reeally neat, descriptive, and beautiful!
deepsea:u are really good.i argee with electro, you got some interesting layout which make the pretty drawing even more interesting to look at. just curious, did u use conte crayon?
abcart:aweseome drawings!










and some studies inspired by kchen, except not as good.

[Capt. Fred]

Woah Man, I love your stuff. All you. especially Wassup, ABC, varnum, electroganic, amazing stuff. You be the professionals.
Say, what can you offer this amateur kid in the way of advice?

The best (most in proportion) one is the scribbliest one. The others I kept squashing up/compressing.

[Capt. Fred]

Woah Man, I love your stuff. All you. especially Wassup, ABC, varnum, electroganic, amazing stuff. You be the professionals.
Say, what can you offer this amateur kiddo in the way of advice?

The best (most in proportion) one is the scribbliest one. The others I kept squashing up/compressing.


zoom-up of least bad attempt.

[XIA]

Deepsea>> I really dig the way you render/block the shape. I was trying to get that effect on the last session, but I couldn't pull it off. What's your process? Yeah, quit a crew we have.

ABCart>> Hi master Thanks. Beautiful as usual.

Vernum>> Thanks. I like the way you lay down the line. Precise/Clean/Bold/confident. You have to teach me how to do that some time.

Wassup>> Thanks , Awesome stuff, nice/clean stroke, I want more.

Capt.Fred>> Yo good stuff, good to see you here.



More Gesture Crap:

[electroganic]

XIA: nice gestures, just cuz they're done in brown doesn't make them crap

Capt. Fred: ha professional, thanks but I don't think I compare to some of these guys. I also have proportion problems, I'm a chronic truncated torsoist. So I try to force myself to exagerate the torso, and some times it comes out ok. Your drawings are very good though keep at it.

Popeye: once again some more great heads

Wassup: nice anatomy studies, I think i need to do some more of those.

Varnum, Abc, Deepsea: what can I say, beautiful stuff, you keep me on my toes. AbcArt is that straight contour drawing your doing, or do you ruff out proportions first?

just when I thought I was getting the hang of vine charcoal, it felt like I was starting all over again. only got a couple worth showing.

[vindow]

its very nice site and we have all kind of art work here. i really liked the huge ness and variety of work .its very acadamic and hard work wish you all the best and keep in touch with me i heartly wants to take my art globaly. if any body needs my help or suggetion feel free to mail me anytime..... whatelse???? life is great with art... keep it up (i had some work to upload but i dont know how to do that ...please tell me.....)
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[deepsea37]

shit Xia, "what is my process"? Hard question. ... I dont know!!

No... I must know ... just need to think about it for a bit.....

(after a timed out session...) done thinking. Here is what I am doing this week, it may change next week and may have been different last week :

First, I think there is an amount of time (we are talking 30sec-2min), in gesture drawings below which I don't even look at tone, only contour. For the contour drawings, I first focus on the the most interesting curves of the pose, then expand out from there. I find that quite often it is the clavicles that establish the dynamics of the upperbody. They are the base of the neck and shoulder, and help to determine the attitude of the head and the fall of the shoulders and scapula over the ribcage - they help to answer questions like: Is the head tipped forward over the body? Is one shoulder thrust forward? upward? Are both clavicles drawn back, wrapping them in close around the neck (I think this is why they are the funny S shape, evolution kicks ass!). They also helps to understand the perspective and foreshortening of the body in the pose (i.e a view from above the body, below or level), almost like drawing the top of a cylinder.

From there I just draw the rest. I generally know the tell-tale contours of the different body parts (bulge of deltoid, insertion of bicep, pectoral muscle insertion into shoulder, trapezius attachement to scapula and outer edge of clavicle, etc etc) and can draw them with just fast references to the model (this is why it pays to learn anatomy, make fast drawing possible). Occasionally, though, body parts are foreshortened in a very difficult way. To tackle this I find it is best to go back to basics and simplify the form with a box, or cylinder to aid in construction and simplifiy the hard perspective. Then I refine the proxy into the proper form.

The pelvis serves a similar purpose as the clavicles for the lower body. Establishes the dynamics of legs and torso. Learn the structure.

Once I have a good impression of the contour on paper, and if there is time, I will work tone into the deepest shows, then try for halftones. The session I go to never does poses over 10 minutes so I rarely work beyond halftones, or into deep detail. I would like a few 20 and 30 minute poses though to really resolve the tones and reflected light.


Examples of working out from clavicles (repeats).






A long winded answer to your question, but maybe some bit will be helpful to someone. I would be interested to hear from others on their approaches.

all for now.

[corn eater]

I've been afraid to post for a long time, but now I'm jumping on the Seattle life drawing bandwagon.

some 1-2 minute poses...




some digital life paintings...


recently started oil painting and this is the first one that I don't want to immediately paint over...

[XIA]

Deepsea>> Thanks man! That really help me out big time. Clavicle for the upper part, pelvis for the lower part. I always making a mistake of just noticing shoulder, not as far as clavicle. This will really help me with the figure big time from the torso up. I often have a hard time attach figure head to the neck/shoulder, perspective and so on...since you mention the tip, my eyes are wide open. "CLAVICLE" is the answer!. Thanks again. Awesome!!!

Electroganic>> Thanks for your kind words I've never tried vine chacoal myself, but yours looks good to me

Corn Eater>> Finally, it's about time you post here. Great stuff! I especially love the last one (your traditional piece). I really dig the big broad shapes and the lighting. Great job man!

vindow>> First you have to have URL (somewhere to host your images..jpg , gif, tif, etc). I don't know any place nowaday that will host images anymore. You might be able to search them on the web. Or if you already have website, then you just upload your image onto your site. Get the URL of the image. Then you put your URL in the image tags.

Here is my crappy contribution:

[varnum]

corneater, especially like that first drawing of the woman from the back arching to the left

Capt. Fred, pro? you got the wrong guy buster! I come here to get inspired, learn from everyone's work and push myself further like most people here. You zeroed right in on the hit of the page, the most confident and least labored sketch of the bunch which would lead me to believe your instincts are pretty damned good at identifying what works. :) Nice light weights in that one too! My guess would be that it was the last drawing on the page.

Popeye, the woman in the drawing inspired by kchen is solid and it's great to see you playing around with different marks in each of those too!

Xia, how are those drawings not Precise/Clean/Bold/confident? that's one of the great things about drawing with a brush or brushpen, you have no choice but to commit to the line... or at least live with it. ;)

[electroganic]

corn eater, truely amazing 1's and 2's glad you decided to join us, please keep posting.

XIA, some more great gestures, you realy seemed to nail that second one w/ no hesitation

varnum, you capture a certain essence w/ such few lines, don't know how you do it but I really admire that

some from today, the figure kept growing off the page for me, oh well, maybe i'll try and draw smaller next time

[Popeye]

vurnum: thanks, and once again, neat stuff!

electroganic: the model's back view one is really good.one of your best!

[AbcArt]

To answer a few peoples questions most of the drawings are gestures between 1 and 2 minutes usually the ones with less lines are the shorter. The ones with more detail are probably 5 min. I don't use a block out phase I just try to put the lines where I see them.

Good to see you finally made it corn eater. Good stuff.

[jr]

keeping it real.
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[varnum]

life drawings from the weekend

Saturday:





Sunday:

[funkylizard]

I haven't posted anything in a while but I'm taking a life drawing class and thought this was a good thread to post some stuff I did.