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MonkeyBoy member
Member # Joined: 21 Sep 2000 Posts: 54 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:59 am |
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I've spent an inordinate amount of time researching quality graphic monitors, colour profiling tools, and display set-up; garnering bits of info here and there is time consuming and often dissatisfying. I've created this thread as a consolidated info-dump for all to add to; feel free to expound on what others have added, pose questions- and when answerers aren't readily available, go out and find them and bring them back.
(I tend to 'pontificate vigilantly'- so I'll add my thoughts in successive posts.) |
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MonkeyBoy member
Member # Joined: 21 Sep 2000 Posts: 54 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:39 am |
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I'd written off calibration tools due to expense: I figured that if it came down to it, I could tweak the colour profile with the assistance of a professional printer, or by producing proofs and tweaking my settings in Photoshop, running another proof. Obviously, that is a shortsighted position- either of those methods will end up costing more in the long run.
As you know, what you see on your screen may have little baring on what you will see on another's display or in print- unless you've calibrated the monitor using a sensor. A sensor/software combo will guide the set up of the monitor so that what you see as red doesn't turn out to be salmon, and make sure that what you see as black isn't really gray, etc. In addition, such tools may reveal inadequacies of your monitor, indicating portions of the spectrum that just can't be displayed correctly- if at all.
When combined with a colour profile in an application like Photoshop, images may be fairly consistently reproduced for specific print methods or to adhere to your industries standards.
I've found a hardware/software bundle for little over $100! Until the end of October, the Pantone ColorView Spyder system has manufacturer discounts from $50-$70; even without these discounts, the Spyder sensor and OpitCal or PhotoCal software bundles may be had for about half the LaCie BlueEye system.
You may find the PDF for the coupon, as well as product info, here:
http://www.colorvision.com/store/monitor.shtml
Do some price checking of your own; I found the introductory product (Spyder+PhotoCal) for $119 after discount, here:
http://shop.pcconnection.com/web/Shopping/Product.htm?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fweb%2fshopping%2fproduct%2ehtm%3fproduct_id%3d447337%26SourceID%3dk15506&SourceID=k15506&product_id=447337&NRNODEGUID=%7bC03E868D-1CEF-4F98-8F00-45BF12FCEA4E%7d&NRQUERYTERMINATOR=1&cookie%5Ftest=1
Since there is no standard for indicating the actual colour space of a monitor- manufacturers only list the theoretical maximum -we're dependent on the use of a calibration tool to accurately report on what can and can't be displayed simultaneously. Monitor reviews that don't include a calibration profile don't really tell us much beyond overt geometry or refresh issues, etc. With access to a monitor candidate, such a tool would allow you to determine the suitability.
Question: on duel monitor set-ups, those of you who use a colour calibrator, will your OS or video card allow for independent profiles for each? If so, what calibrator are you using and did you have to do anything special to make both work properly? _________________ MonekyBoy
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Eric Pommer member
Member # Joined: 08 Feb 2001 Posts: 134 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:49 am |
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This is an issue causing me some frustration. When I print images, they come out looking like they do on my monitor. But when I view my images on other monitors, they always look much darker, with all subtle details lost on images that are dark to begin with. The other monitors are older, but still....
Actually, I could use some help. The image below is a greyscale range (a great idea, snatched from another forum). On my monitor, I start to see differences in grey around the 9 or 10 mark. If other people could look at it and tell me where they start to see differences, that would be great.
www.mindplaces.com/save/greyscale.jpg _________________ -=-=-=-
Mindplaces: Artwork by Eric Pommer
http://www.mindplaces.com |
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MonkeyBoy member
Member # Joined: 21 Sep 2000 Posts: 54 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:28 am |
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Eric Pommer wrote: |
This is an issue causing me some frustration. When I print images, they come out looking like they do on my monitor. But when I view my images on other monitors, they always look much darker, with all subtle details lost on images that are dark to begin with. The other monitors are older, but still....www.mindplaces.com/save/greyscale.jpg |
You're fortunate to have your images print accurately; typically, printers have to be calibrated just like monitors to produce a predictable or matching colour to that found on a monitor- with a calibration required for each paper/ink combo used. This is usually done by printing a test strip, scanning the print job using a sensor designed for just such a purpose, then test printing.
As to having your work appear consistently on other monitors: it isn't going to happen -unless you convince everybody else to calibrate their screens to your specs. Some folks like everything supper-saturated, while others deplore brightness or high contrast.
There is one unifying method (that comes to my feeble mind) you could use, though: adjust your colour profile to match that of leading game developers; if folks adjust their sets to make Half Life or Doom or Diablo or Choose Your Own Poison look good, then your images may gain some consistency by operating in a similar colour space. It is my understanding that a development house will have entire design departments calibrate their displays to the same target profile for consistency- otherwise, you might end up with one guy making fuchsia coloured blood while some other bloke's Testicle Monster is too dark to make out -and we can't have that, can we? _________________ MonekyBoy
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