[crosswindstar]

I need a book on perspective, my work has no real depth
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[AndyT]

You have Fun With A Pencil already?

I thought there's something about basic shapes and how to create depth.
There's also a lot about perspective in free online tutorials.
Or look at reality and images you like and think about what you see.
I think you don't need a book.

I think people recommended a certain book with a misleading title that teaches everything you need to know about perspective.
Does anybody know what book that was? I think it has something to do with cartoons!? ...
but as I said the title is misleading ...
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[agflash]

try this if you need some theory:

http://handprint.com/HP/WCL/tech12.html

Andrew

[crosswindstar]

thanks
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[deepsea37]

this one was recommended to me, and is an excellent book to have on hand for reference for anything you might want to render in perspective, arches, boats, inclinded declined planes, posts, etc.

Perspective for Artists
by Rex Vicat Cole

[cheney]

There are two majorly different types of perspective. The first is "Linear Perspective", and the second is "Atmospheric Perspective".
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[crosswindstar]

i think im looking for atmospereric perspective
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[AndyT]

I guess cheney will have to explain what he meant exactly!?

crosswindstar:
Can you look at these links and say if they seem helpful to you?
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3148
http://www.newtek.com/products/lightwave/tutorials/animation/lighting/index.html

Or maybe you mean something about composition as a way to create depth?
I'm not sure I get what you are looking for.

There are a lot of things you have to get right to create depth.
Perspective, values and composition all play important parts there.
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[crosswindstar]

well ok then i will
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[Inspector Lee]

One I've always found extremely helpful is "Perspective Drawing Handbook" by Joseph D'Amelio. It covers all the basics clearly and concisely, and makes them pretty easy to understand. Can't seem to link to it at Amazon, but if you go there and type in that title you'll find it.
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[Impaler]

Linear perspective is lines converging towards "vanishing points".

Atmospheric perspective is when objects lose contrast and detail over distance. You know, like mountains looking indigo, instead of brown and green. Just look around at buildings and such around you. You'll be surprised.

Combine both in your pictures to give them more depth. Atmospheric perspective is the easier one to forget.
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[cheney]

Linear Perspective is stuff from Leonardo and Rapheal. This uses linear elements that draw back to a vanishing line in the image. This is something only for archetectural elements or scenes.

Atmospheric Perspective was invented much later by all those strange French people. It basicaly draws everything back to a blurry horizon area where the sky and ground get lost in atmospheric distortion from extreme depth. This type of perspective is almost completely without all rigid form, but it is much more dramatic when used with dramatic scenic lighting.

It is also possible to use both types of perspective in a single image, and amazingly enough nobody ever attempted using both in the same images until very recently in art history.
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[crosswindstar]

well the online things people have sugestesed have been very instite full, and i'll look for the books as well, now all i need is a scanner...
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[Drew]