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fluO
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:18 pm     Reply with quote
Hi ! i've been trying some acrylics these days and i'm having great fun !!!
Feels so good to actually mix the paint =p

Well i'm looking for all kind of advices/critiques on the drawing and the acrylic techniques !!! So any tips is welcome : i begin with a pencil sketch, then go very liquid/thin/transparent and gradually go thicker. I use few colors ( but not the primaries, dunno maybe this is bad but i dont feel at ease with them right now ) : cadnium red, cadnium yellow, raw sienna, burnt sienna , cobalt or phtalo blue, white, black; and a large brush !

Before going on, and turning what i do wrong into bad habits , i reaaaaalllllyy reallllyyy want to hear from you guys !!! so let's hear it !


coloquintes ( still life of a weird kind of vegetable from marocco )


portrait of Grenadine ( she posts on sijun !! )


thaaank you soo very much Smile)))
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:18 pm     Reply with quote
So i wrote a big explanation about my tecnique and it got deleted so
hell heck!!!!! Evil or Very Mad i am too tryed to write again so here it is the thing,
i recomed the use of primay colors to get all the tones on your paintings
to personalise more the cromatic gamma of your images,

I dont follow any specific tecnique to work, i do as i go,
and if i like the tones i leave them as they are.
The tenique you use is a good as any and since you got good results there is no harm done =)
Other adivise it is dont use pure black, use a combo of two complementary colors to get the shadows.
well that is all good luck

i am so angry at netscape grrr :/

bw i like the eyes of the girl they look very much alive
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fluO
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:53 pm     Reply with quote
Well thanks for the comments maxetormer !
i do not use pure black but my "crappy digitalisation method" ( quick photo ) gives some black. I'll try to scan them all properly and update asap.

but i cannot look at your pictures ! it says "403 forbidden"

does anyone have spectral reflectance curves for pigments to give/trade ?? :p

meanwhile here is another one ( palette : venetian red, yellow ochre, burnt umber, white, black )




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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:51 am     Reply with quote
Hi fluo, I think these look great. You know what you are doing. Don't listen to nobody.

With that in mind, the only idea I can think of is to play with texture, as in texture and no texture. It's a relative thing, so like the hair is textural, so let there be some activity within that shape. But the, say, cloth, is relatively flat, so make that flatter, with less activity, relative to the hair. It's the kind of thing that works in drawing as well and can make the 2-d aspect of a painting more interesting.

Remember, don't listen to anybody, but be hard on yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:15 am     Reply with quote
I really like the tip here spooge, I think it is very important to be hard on yourself to evolve with the painting but too much of it can be dangerous too. I read up on Karl Isakson this week and we made some copies of the artists work we were reading about. Karl Isakson was very harsch upon himself and he couldn�t make any exhibits in the end of his career. He was writing in a letter once that he had been doing Oranges for five weeks, paintings, and the only decent thing he claimed, was, a 15-minute sketch of those oranges, very cool, kind of how I feel about my work too. :)
I really like his work though, he was simplifying as much as possible.

I missed this thread earlier, I really like the first vegetable. :)
I have to do more Stilleben too.

Keep it up fluO. :)
Matthew

P.S. maxetormer, hehe I have been doing that too once and that time I was writing almost a page but I didn�t feel to wrote it again so I shut down the computer that time. :)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:14 pm     Reply with quote
yeah i hate my internet connettion some times =) Matthew Very Happy ha ha
this links should work (i hope, i really hate deviantart , so tryed another
method):

http://anzwers.org/free/maxetormer/paginas/ojo.htm
http://anzwers.org/free/maxetormer/paginas/angel.htm
http://anzwers.org/free/maxetormer/paginas/m%E9xico.htm
http://www.deviantart.com/view/1038461/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2213559/

i dont rember the name of the artist but some time ago on tv i saw a
painter that put alot of detail on his paintings and therfore every painting
tooked longggg time to be done, so he died on poverty, and his production was very small, i mean, his paintings were great but i guess you have to be
as hard on your self as you can handle, to muchs self-presure is not good
and yeah i as well put a lot pressure on my self, and it is not very good for my health ha ha Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:32 pm     Reply with quote
Matthew : hah stuck on oranges for five week ! and i thought i was obsessive/compulsive loool =p


Spooge : thx for the comments ! feels warm =p
I have noted your hint, and i m planning to try some things with the point of focus more sharp and contrasty while having the rest more fuzzy and just a tad more saturated ( got that from a veryyy interesting read, see below )



hey guys ! while surfing for information on various pigments i found THE WEBSITE :p

http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/

the information avaliable there is enormous, the lessons are thought with the artist point of view in mind and it goes in depth ( best infos i found online ) about the mechanics of the eyes/light/color.

there is also a vast section on pigments and watercolor technique ...and and and perspective lessons !!! woohoo
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:01 pm     Reply with quote
One thing I found helpful early on was too look at different artists' actual palettes. See the colors they have laid out and how they lay them out. There are different techniques for different schools of painting. Of course, most of them are for oils, but you can easily use them for acrylic.

Also, you might start sketching on the medium with thinned (milky consistency) ochre or some similar color. This is easier to correct and cover then pencil is. Although, I have come to the point of drawing with a sharpie and then covering with paint, I still use the thinned neutral color a lot for roughing out work. The marker will sometimes show through the paint. That is on thinner paintings.

I do not know if the fat (less dilution) over lean (thinned) applies for acrylics, but it is something to think about.

Just my two cents� might not even apply� good luck and just keep having fun.
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