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LePensky · Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:51 pm

The quality of the portraits in this thread continues to astound me! Here's another from me:

Keep up the great work folks Smile

-LePensky

hedlamb · Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:00 pm

Bobuke · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:45 am

"LePensky" I�m glad you showed up here - this is my favourite thread while learning to use the digital brushes!
I hope you will continue... Wink

"hedlamb" I like yours - have seen your name a lot but can�t remember your pictures - have to take a clooser
look after posting this! Smile

I like the glance of your eye and the colours. I also see a very liberating way to paint which is a skill I want to
gain. I still have such a stiffness when I work - I�m really trying to get rid of that...
...perhaps this one is a start - a little bit less fearful way to paint Laughing

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Probustion · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 12:01 pm

it was getting dark while drawing this so wasn't able to finish it. this one seems more accurate than earlier attempts in terms of likeness. likeness is good.

little question for you portrait artists: how do you measure? or none at all maybe? i guess some artists are so trained that they can draw from life with no tools at all.
but i still need some kind of way to measure my own face in the mirror. i used to build all heads with the construction method described by Loomis, but now, i only use that for faces drawn from imagination.
for self-portraits, usually i just use the space between the tip of a pencil and my thumb, and hold it in front of me. but i've also read about viewfinders(which i also use in difficult situations), and simple tools to transfer the angle of a certain line to paper. what do you guys use?
And most importantly, do you train your eyes faster if you use no measuring tools at all?

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Critical Pete · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 5:35 pm

Probustion: The most common way is to use your pencil the way you described. A viewfinder is used for composition, not for measuring the proportions. The way I do it is to first draw in an approximate egg shape for the head, and then I put in the ear. From the ear you can then work out where the eyebrow and nose will be placed and from those the rest pretty much falls into place easily. But you should read http://www.goodbrush.com/misc/painting_lessons/sargent.pdf which I got off Craig Mullins' site. Might as well take advice from the greatest portrait artist there was right?

Probustion · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2003 4:34 am

thanks Pete! i've read that article some time ago, but will take a closer look.
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Harmony Steel · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 4:33 am

There's some beautiful work here! Here's a few recent self-portraits of mine. I know the first one has lighting issues Wink

Medieval portrait for Epilogue community project:

'Into the Sun'

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Swarm · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:35 am

nice one Hedlamb!
great color on the last one harmony steel.

Drunken Monkey · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:11 pm

Duracel, thanks dude. Your surreal self portreats with more finish are really tight. Lov em.

Swarm thanks!

Bobuke, thanks! I wonder that too...

this was supposed to be me but they all look like different people...

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dns2k · junior member Member # Joined: 19 Mar 2003 Posts: 6

here is a quick pen sketch selfportrait

-dns

Bobuke · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:55 am

"hedlamb" - my journey through sijun looking for your pictures was worth the effort really!! You�re great.
When capturing the expression of your own face you only take what is needed - I admire you for that.
I will be observant to your signature from now on... Wink

"Probustion" When I look at all your selfportraits, there is no doubt that it is the same person.... I like
them all! Smile

Just go on!
You asked about measuring - I don�t use anything but my own eyes and comparing my paintings and
drawings with the photo or what I see in the mirror...just again and again!! Wink

...sometimes
I�m lucky. But we are all learning and I try not to be so fixed with the likeness but to develop a
moore free style and try to progress in making pictures worthy of beeing called art! Laughing

"Drunken Monkey" very beautiful drawings with nerv in the lines. The first one to the left tell us all that you must be beautiful like a "Greek good", Wink

but they are all interesting to look at...MOORE OF THIS!

Nr. 14

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wasssup · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:18 am

hm...couldnt find the time for speedies, thou, decided to do a small idiotic sp for the self portrait thread.

LePensky >> i really love your style, all the graphic elements on your portrait are harmonic and full of energy, just great!
Harmony Steel >> the *into the sun* ones very beautiful, was totally attracted by the expression in your eyes Smile

Swarm >> cool sp
Drunken >> those sketches are all sweet, keep it up
Bobuke >> nice to see you active in painting my very lovely lady Smile

hedlamb · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:26 pm

Bobuke, thanks. Personally, I feel I've so much to learn, and so far to go, this forum is one of the biggest sources, serving as a reminder of that endeavor. Very motivating. Hopefully in a year or so, we can both look back and say that we've improved.

Swarm · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:55 pm

excellent wassup !!!!!

Probustion · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:16 pm

thx bobuke. i'm very concerned with likeness. it gives me great joy to see the portrait actually looks like me. but the facial features are so delicate that i often have trouble seeing the caracteristics of my own face. sigh...
i guess it's a good quality not to be easily satisfied. if i was i wouldn't try harder!

don't look too hard at this one or it's gonna spoil your day, i tell ya!

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hedlamb · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:15 am

Nice style, Swarm.

Bobuke · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 1:05 pm

"wasssup"...thnxs! I appreaciate your joyous acclamation! Wink

That portrait of yours, so full of life....seems so easily
made and it�s you all right - no doubt!!! I really like the way you express yourself.

"headlamb" I really hope you�re right Very Happy

We are all struggling with our progress but even when you�re a beginner you
sometimes do great job - and now you have done it again and I love it - I hope you don�t mind Wink

"swarm" I�ve been following you for a while and I like your style - it�s something special really - this last one has a
very sensitive expression but the one I like best is the lady in the hat with the wonderful exciting look!!

"probustion" you�ve made a really beautiful portrait this time and your huge eye i Speed Painting Thread emmidiately
inspired me to compress my selfportrait to just an eye this time.... But I�m sorry that I can�t show it under the same
thread as you did!!! Embarassed

Here I go...

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hedlamb · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:51 pm

Yes. At all levels, you have to continue to push yourself. Art, of any form, is a never ending attempt to better your abilities and knowledge. I'm somewhere in the middle, not beginner, nor guru, so I'm kinda of stuck in a vacuum. But, I'm still a "pup", so all the things before me, only makes me want to try harder.

Make an oath to draw at least for 30mins or more, a day, from life, everyday. My job affords me to do this, so I often don't even have to draw when I get home, but I do, because art is personal, to me. I have a ways to go, but in eagerness, I will.

merlyns · Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 6:40 am

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-david
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Bobuke · Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:31 am

....I never thought you were a beginner, "headlamb"! Wink

I took your adwise to draw from life everyday and made a quick portrait of my son today, and I will go on -
Graphit on paper. Perhaps I will post it in Speed Painting Thread.
I mostly paint my portraits from mirror now but even if use a photo I think it would be no fun to use it
as a layer under the painting as I�ve understood that many people do here. But it is usually very easy to see -
even if the artist don�t think so Wink

!

Well, I�m so tired....still not inough to stop me from painting!
Never mind it�s another try to make a selfportrait anyway!! Laughing

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Probustion · Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:47 pm

just keeping the thread up. this could fit in speedy's as well
light from the monitor is funky

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Swarm · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:17 am

bobuke, the last one is nice :)

acrylic on paper.

greanspam · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:49 pm

aint i the sexy one

fukifino · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:04 pm

This was my second attempt at doing a photoreal type picture in photoshop. I just snapped a picture of myself in the bathroom (hence the bad contrast) and used it as a reference for this. I like how it turned out, but the hair is kinda weak.

Meanos · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:36 am

fukifino : You look like Jay (Jay & Silent Bob) Wink

Really amazing, congrats...

Petteri · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:43 pm

My first selfportrait. about 25 min.

kenchan · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 12:48 pm

Self portraits in Conte, Pen, and Pencil.
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Matt Ryan · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:02 pm

1st attempt at a SP... FAiluRE! hahah. great thread here btw.

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Mon · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:53 pm

nice swarm, great use of the paper in that one.

a quicky just this morning. I had an accident when shaving today, so the whole beard had to go. this is a rare opportunity to catch a glimpse of my naked chin.

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Duracel · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:26 am

Swarm, i really like your ones! Smile

Here i am again .. nothing special:

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