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vampire_wolf
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:57 am     Reply with quote
Well now i am working on this picture:



Coments, Critics and Sugestions are welcome!!!! i realy need help!!!
There are some details on the face that i can't manage..., just don't know how to develop this... i realy need help with those details...
i will post the right part when i finish the logo and decide a proper name for him!! jajaja (the actual don't satisfy me... �_� don't know how to write Fisyerald the spelling is killing me)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:01 am     Reply with quote
What do you want him to look like? Do you want him to look older? Do you want him to look like one of those "hunky silver-haird guys"? (a la Richard Dean Anderson?)

And do you want the big eyes? Because they are big. Is the size of the eyes something that must be that way (a stylistic choice)? (I'm not criticising, I'm just trying to figure out where you want to do with this piece.)

I think it is quite good, I mean, very good, but the flesh colors could be a little more "lively" (just a little), and the eyes look very "alarmed." Like he's deeply concerned and spooked.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:58 am     Reply with quote
Hello Thanxs for the coment.
Just i want him like Sean Connery but with less "skin folds" =P in spanish is (arrugas), he is old but not too old, just about 50-60. Well the expresion is looking kindly, like a kid... humm just i have to work more in that.
What you should recomend me to do, to improve his expresion XD
Thanx.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:09 pm     Reply with quote
If it is part of your style to make the eyes smaller, I would do that. They look rather large and very intense.

Would you mind if I did a quick paint-over to show what I'm getting at? I'm not a mean critical bitch (honest!) and sometimes it's easier for me to paint it out rather than to express it just in words.

Basically, I think you've done a real nice job, it's just that it could do with some tweaking. Some "objective eyes" (someone not so personally involved in the piece) can often be helpful in such cases.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:56 pm     Reply with quote
Here are things I can observe on this. I hope this helps.

* The black lines around the eyes and the face make it look cartoony
* The nose planes are not formed properly. The nose should angle in more.
* The head doesn't seem to rest properly on the neck.
* The monochromatic colors of the skin and beard lend a cartoony aspect
* The nostrils are flaired and I wonder fi this perspective on them can be correct
* The ears are quite small
* The face is overly symetrical
* The composition is weak
* The eyebrows look pasted on
* I don't like it

.. Don't get me wrong. I can see it took a lot of work, and its not bad for a cartoon style. But if you are going for realism then it needs a lot of work.

Be sure to keep working!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 2:45 am     Reply with quote
Man, Light, your "critique technique" SUX.

vampire wolf, it's a very nice portrait. It needs tweaking, to be sure, but it isn't nearly as "unlikable" as Light seems to feel it is. But of course Light is entitled to his opinion.

I like it. And I can be a pretty harsh judge when it comes to portraits. Let me know if you'd like me to give you some more pointers, and perhaps take a stab at a paint-over to show you what I mean.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 12:42 pm     Reply with quote
Light's critique wasn't too bad. I have instuctor who has a well known three-word critique:"Thees ees crap". Yet his classes are always full because people want someone who isn't going to bullshit them.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:28 am     Reply with quote
yeap you can use paintover to show me your point of view. I will take care of the details that are posted here.

Thanx for the coments =)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 6:58 pm     Reply with quote
vampire_wolf, now I can't get your image! I guess your website is down.

Will try later.
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