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Omi-kun
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:47 am     Reply with quote
Pierre: astonishing! painting in hard value is such a great advice!


15min (still crap but a lot faster)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:04 am     Reply with quote
Great work here, guys...incredible thread...

pierre: oh man... that light
sparth: good looking architecture.

Here goes one quicky speeder and not so quick airship...




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:26 am     Reply with quote
GEEZ! I've been away for a couple of days and BOOOM, my god I love the art on this thread!

well well, have to come with something so I'll just post these jpegs not even worth printing on toiletpaper...






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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:49 am     Reply with quote
Pol - those ships are amazing.

Capt - amazing

sometypeof - Thank you. :D

hpx - I had to continue your lessons, I hope it is ok.



keep up the good work everyone
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 12:41 pm     Reply with quote
sometypeof: thx:) great tributes there
Sparth: thx dude, you rock again!
pol: those ships are tight!
Capt.FG: i do like to have a print of your pics on the wall of my bedroom, those girls pics are awesome!
Matthew: very dynamic, nice Smile

This thread is gettin mad,im gonna sit in front of my monitor freshing this page for 24 hrs...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:21 pm     Reply with quote
wassup : thanks man. the woodland meeting has amazing atmosphere. this is one of the few places you can find beautiful impressionistic work.

pol : amazing

sparth excellent as always

i'm proud to finally be able to post here.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:24 pm     Reply with quote
and some kind of hut somewhere.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:48 pm     Reply with quote
good work guys!

I am a firm believer of the idea that samurais did have a life beside chopping eachothers heads off...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 4:04 pm     Reply with quote
You guys make me absolutely sick to my stomach, the skill in this thread is absolutely mind-blowing.

I have to give the big props to Matthew though, despite all the big-guns posting on these forums, I see you constantly pushing yourself, you've REALLY improved, especially in the pieces from the past month or so. MAD GUSTO! Keep up the great work!

-JD
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:44 pm     Reply with quote
wassssup, i just saw that movie last week, and thought it was amazing, very nice job on the pic, i wish i had the dvd too study it a bit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 6:03 pm     Reply with quote
Pierre, you crack me up!!! SmileSmileSmile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 8:38 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:48 am     Reply with quote
anybody got any chips?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:23 am     Reply with quote
Hello!

I've been posting long time ago here, and now I see that the place got insane. You guys are awesome!!! On the other hand I havent been drawing for more then a year. I was doing mostly 3d and some cheap matte painting, that are mostly based of photos.

I have a quick Q especially to spooge and balistic capt. flush (ohh... there are a lot more of course! so much talent here!), as they have a really unique wayof painting. How do you guys achieve such and interesting texture to your paintngs?

If I have time I have no problems with building wolumes, although shading them and choosing the right colo palette is always tough. How do you eyeball what color has to be where. With photo reference it is almost like cheating, but I doodle and doolde now and then whenever I have a break at work, but I cant seam to find the way to eyeball colors right. Also volumes are OK, having light detributed right is really hard. There is just alwais something wrong, and I see it, but I cant predict what do I have to paint to make it look mor realistic. Any tips and comments are appreciated!!!




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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 2:18 am     Reply with quote
Denis,

are you sure it is texture you want? i think you need to work more on the basic shape design that goes into good drawing before worrying about texture. Don't worry about color either, if the values work, any old color will do for now.

If you look at the thing I you see that in shadow there is little contrast or information at all. You have a lot of stuff going on everywhere, it loses the feeling of light and shadow. I reversed the figure ground relationship so the figure does not feel glowing, esp in shadow.

In general, (I picked this up form Flushy) think about what you are doing, less painting, more thinking. Once you have decided what you think you need to do, do it and let it alone. don't go back and twiddle, squint, worry, paw, moan the same thing again and again. Do it with confidence and leave it alone. Even if it is wrong it will be OK.

Less scrubby, more flat, so you can see where you are.

I hope this does not confuse.

Gotta go back to work, procrastinating here

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 3:14 am     Reply with quote
Hey

wasssup - thank you. :D

J.Der - Thank you there, I am always inspired after a visit in this Speed Thread so this is the place that motivates me. :D

wassup, sometypeof, pierre, sparth, M.C.Barret, worthless_meat, DSedov, keep up the good work guys. :D

ok I had to make a quicky to post with the thank you�s, try to stay with eye-sockets and call it a day as spooge gave me the tip.
Keep it up everyone and have a nice weekend and Mid-summer, Mid-summer is celebrated in Sweden today.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 3:25 am     Reply with quote


Thanks alot Craig. Really helpfull tips. I promised my self to do at least five speedy paintings everyday... its night rightnow though so I'll slack a little =))

BTW, I've sent you an email, and I guess you receiveso may of them that you might even miss it. I'll just post it here. but if you have time look at the image I atteched to that email (cant post it here).

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Hello Mr. Mullins!

My name is Dennis Sedov, and Im currently working for Lance Wilhoite, who you worked with on 500 Nations. Im doing matte painting and compositing work with him, and it is the first commercial project Im doing. I have no traditional art background whatsoeverm all self tought.

Maybe its too much to ask, but having looked at your work at Sijun and at your site for quite a long time now, it became clear to me that I want to do mattepaintng work. I just finished my thrid shot with Lance and it took me almost a month to finished it (destroyed downtown of New York) Im looking for some simple tips you could recomend me when using Photoshop for matte work. I cant get that crispines and texture. It always looked a little smudged and somehow unrealistic. I include the sample image with this email (I havent signed NDA, so I guess I can show it to you) there is also more on my website.

I just turned 21, so I have 1 more year till 22 (your age when you worked on 500 nations =)) to learn the rest. Im just looking for couple usefull tips. Like custom brushes, some presets you use, style of paintng. I was looking at your pics for hours, to understand the brush stroke patterns, so it really helped me alot!

I hope to hear from you soon!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 3:46 am     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 4:02 am     Reply with quote
pierre : genuinely funny
stereophoenix : dope style

another oldie from me to justify the post. i was trying to invoke the conversation in this one.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 4:06 am     Reply with quote
aaaarrrrghghghgh. i'm stuck looking at the world through green lenses.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 4:15 am     Reply with quote
hey! nice stuff everybody! Very Happy

a very fast one..

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 4:25 am     Reply with quote
all lovely !

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 5:43 am     Reply with quote
what an incredible thread...

tiger:
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 5:56 am     Reply with quote
holy there dudes, this one was way too fast.
Can anyone see what it is?



I agree with you wasssup, the inspiration is flowing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 7:14 am     Reply with quote
cool work all of you!

Matthew, I would say that is all the Sijun members busy doing speed paintings Smile

This is an oil painting, used a ref for this one. Following Zorns formula of doing it with 4 colors, cold black, warm red, golden ochre and white, and of course, a wide brush.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 7:16 am     Reply with quote
love your brushstrokes wassup. click and save every time.
i'm on holiday. relax back and scribble a couple. trying to overcome my green addiction with overkill. sorry. Confused
long live the thread.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:34 am     Reply with quote
see: Cool pic. reminds me of http://www.goodbrush.com/gallery/sketches/black_rider

wassup: you rock, d00d, you rock.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:04 am     Reply with quote
@Capt. Fred Very Happy yeah what greater compliment one can get ?! Very Happy

@pierre : coooal !
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:12 am     Reply with quote
pierre: love this traditional painting! hm...thinkin if i should shake off the dust on my color palette...
sometypeof: thx:) like the 2nd piece of your latest post, abstract and cool
Capt.Fred: thx man Smile

a quick one, 30 min.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:26 am     Reply with quote
Unreal! This thread keeps getting better. Pierre, amazing stuff. I've been on the road, but I try to check in when I can. Hope to post again soon. Again great work everyone.
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