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ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

TMG: Nice steampunk styles!

"Aaaah..." The Baron rumbled, "The donut truck has arrived..."

Deckard · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:15 pm

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wasssup · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:32 pm

Pierre: awesome battle scene!

Ninja:

Denis · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:40 pm

Hi! Newbie here. Smile

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hwslut · member Member # Joined: 18 Jun 2001 Posts: 100

Dekard: stop trying to rip off HPX's style. It isn't very becoming.

Wassup: that ninja is great.

Deckard · Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:58 pm

Capt. Fred · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:12 am

Woah! Wonderful work denis. Cool, great stuff.

spooge demon · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 2:29 am

back from vacation, katglued to arm, reaally nice work here! i run and hide now.

deckard, im an illustrator, impossible to offend one of those.

20 minutes to type this:(

wasssup · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:39 am

denis: very cool style there!
hwslut: thx:) just stole a scene from animatrix
spooge: welcome back Smile

another one,ninja again

Djaggernaut · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:42 am

Mountain moth are always searching for living lantern...

My first attempt at CG drawing Wink

Comments are welcome, I'm really newbie with that. I've just tried to bring some poesy in this scene (perhaps it's not visible Wink

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SpiralEye · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:52 am

swarm: I like your big doorway painting.

Mon: that guy bending over with the light coming from his torso--I love it. I love it. I have images like this in my head. It's kind of scary stuff, so I don't like to paint it, but I like yours!

Isric--your chars with no hands are funny! They would live for like, two seconds before dying from starvation! Awesome. I like the fun feeling of your paintings, particularly the cardinal costumed guy

SpiralEye · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:57 am

wassup: frickin awesome fight scene. Yep. Says it all. That pic rules.

spooge: I like the poses of your guys in these two pics. Even the standing samurai's got dynamic pose stuff goin' on. Look this is really, cheesy, but I gotta ask you a question in hopes I get an answer. Here seems to be the best place. Do you think HDRI's would be good to study values from? Ther I said it.

Denis: Your style reminds me of the children's author and illustrator william joyce. It's cool, man.

Gort · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:33 am

Spooge - I love the Asian stuff - samurai especially - always pleasing!! Thanks!
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SpiralEye · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:42 am

shaver value study. Did it just now. About 30 min, I guess. Obvious mouse-shakiness. I gotta bring my tablet to work. In hindsight, I should have quit working on this piece 15 min ago. It was better then.

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stereophoenix · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:36 pm

very much inspired by hpxs and spooges samurais Embarassed

wasssup · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 4:21 pm

hm...anyone misses him?

dunno why...

HaRdC0rePixxX · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:32 pm

samurais, ninjas...i'm bringing in a swordman to start the battle Smile

deckard, no offense taken here Smile

maybe just a thought : better focus on the technique than on the gimmicks. imo, it's better to know how to draw than to know how to hide the flaws behind so-called 'style'. i tend to do too much eye candy for my own sake.
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spooge demon · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:55 pm

Lunatique · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:23 pm

HDRI is "High Dynamic Range Imaging."

It's basically images that contains far more detail--as if you took the same photograph at different exposure settings, and then combined them all.

Here are some links if you want to know more: http://www.rendermania.com/HDRI/
http://graphics.stanford.edu/~mhouston/school/digital-photo/cs448a-project.htm
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/CAVE/research/demos/new/cat_hdr_imaging.html

BTW, has Mark or Leonard from Ballistic Publishing contacted you yet? If they have, please read the email--it's kind of important. (I'm assuming you skip a lot of emails from strangers due to the insane amount you receive.)

Harmony Steel · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:49 am

Some quick little speedpaints I just finished.

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LAZU · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:44 am

sketch book quickies

Swarm · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:08 am

thx Eyewoo and spiraleye Smile

Spooge, hpx, wasssup Shocked

nocacaptain > I just love your flying bathtub

denis > really nice Wink

wasssup · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:23 am

LAZU: your pics remind me of some expressionistic artists:)
Swarm: the last one looks kinda cool...is it a wreck or what?

Yeah,light up the battle!

spooge demon · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 5:01 am

OK Lunatique I am on it. I do have someone read my mail now. Ugh, very sad this is needed.

Yes, I understand the exposure combo idea, been around quite a while. People even did it before digital. Much more difficult I would guess. As far as using it for study, I suppose it is better than photos with crushed areas. Exposure limitations in photography are ONE of the reasons to work from life, though. The other, probably more important, is to prevent you from copying shapes and to internalize the forms you perceive and feel and try to describe them. Photos, unless you are really advanced, are the best way to stop yourself from growing, and they are addictive because it's easy bang for the buck and it takes very little time or effort to get good at duplicating them (relatively speaking). And if anyone quotes me on that without taking the context of all that I am saying I will hunt you down with a rusty axe. 'Mullins hates luci-jockies!' I did quite a bit of photo copying early on and it is great for learning to control your media.

Working from life can be pretty overwhelming if you are starting from scratch. It might sound strange, but working from photos are the very beginning might be a good idea, until you can control things enough to duplicate the photo, then move to life, and don't whine about the hit your art seems to take. Yes, it won't look as "photo real" as your photo stuff and you might not get as many �wowas� from people who don�t know what is going on but you are moving into a much bigger world.

The best idea is to work from casts of human forms. Why not a still life? Because the standards that are required for pulling off a convincing rendering of a human form are greater than for a can or flowers. The viewer is not as easily forgiving. And the casts don't move, they have no reflectivity, no maddening variations in warm and cool skin tones, do it at home, etc. A great place to start. You can buy them on the webJ

So before you think about using better photos, work from life more. If you have the time and resources to screw around with compositing exposures, you have the time to sit there and look.

Once you have a few thousand hours from life, you will look at photos and use them in a very different, and I feel better, way.

I hope that answers your question, it is just my opinion, and I don�t mean that in an offhand gee shucks kind of way. There are a lot of ways to learn and do art. Anyone could legitimately disagree with everything I have said here and be correct in his or her way.

There are a lot of pros around here, they have any opinions they would like to share?

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StylesDavis · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:57 am

hi everybody! well, this is my first posting in this thread, although i've been consulting this forum and especially this thread for over a year until now.

the reason to g�ve myself an asskick to post is, that i wanted to ask you something about, well, " the sucessfull way of learning to draw", and further stuff about the importance of life-drawing, after spooge demon wrote some interesting things about it...
so is it true, that you learn things like anatomy, perspective, proportions, color, light and shadow best by simply copiing nature?
isn't drawing a human more about construction after studiing anatomybooks for example, than drawing a human from life again and again and again? i never had the chance to take life-drawing courses to draw humans, but the hours where i took my time sitting outside and copiing the neigbour's garden or other things weren' t too eye-opening...i mean, that i don't have the feeling that i learn too much by copiing nature. it seems too be more about just-drawing-what-you-see without getting a deeper understanding/knowledge of what you are drawing; perhaps my brain is too small to get all the information at once that i need if i want to improve my drawing-from-head-ability; or i forget too fast what i've seen...

because of that learning anatomy from anatomybooks or shading after more scientific methods seem to be more success-promising to me, but on the other hand i have the strong feeling that i develop an own (lousy) style too soon, using similar forms an shapes too often... 'know mean? Sad

so, is there something i could have missed related to life-drawing? could i do something wrong when i copy nature by "drawing-what-i-see"? lifedrawing is very heavy-going to me, although i'm already practiced in it; getting the right proportions is the biggest stress-factor eating up all my brain-activity... Wink

could someone please help me...?

ps: excuse my probably bad school-english...
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Duracel · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:28 am

Such exciting work around here since the downtime ... impossible.

After one week extreme F5-pressing, the last days i never tried ... here some work i did in the meanwhile:

naturstudy in colorpencil:

First and second "Marker"-try ever:

And this is from today:

Not enough this week ... Sad

PS: thx, Matthew
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viag · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:32 am

Tzan · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 9:38 am

Yes thats his lower jaw. But when I first saw that last tiger it looked like he had a monkey pox infected prarie dog in his mouth Smile

J.Der · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 11:30 am

First speed paint post, not really anything in particular, just preparing default bricks for an in-progress illustration. They didn't warrant their own thread, so, here ya go.

5-10 minutes apiece.

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