[Pat]

[Torstein Nordstrand]

So can anyone give me more examples of tasty brushes? And has the new Water Colour brushes speeded up? Is the tinting tool still there since the "old" water colour is back?

...or maybe I should stop waiting for the full version and download the trial to see for myself?

Pat, painter's RGB wheel looks a lot (but not quite, I think) like the Munsell Color Notation System.
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[Lunatique]

[Frog]

Oh dear, that brush editor is an unmitigated disaster, I mean how slow is that????

Bring back the brush palette, you need to be able to tweak on the fly, not stop and start to make little changes to your brush settings. It's amazing how little thought seems to go into usability and workflow sometimes.
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[Pat]

Here's my current basic Painter Setup.

Torstein Nordstrand: those are most of the new preset digital watercolor brushes. Note that there's no active watercolor layer in the layers menu. They work like the old Painter 6 watercolor tool in that they're active on the canvas itself. Also note the special settings on the upper menu --you can control the diffusion and the wet fringe on the fly. The tool is reasonably fast as well --far faster than Painter 7 watercolors. The trade-off is that the diffusion and capillary action isn't as accurate and sometimes you can see the brush spacing. The wet-fringe can be a little weird in that it can artifact a little strange with repeated scrubbing. If you liked Painter 6's watercolors you're gonna live the new ones.

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Lunatique, all the double clicking annoys me too. It really interrupts the flow when you have to search 20 brush categories to find what you're looking for. I'm missing those custom palettes more and more.

Here's some stuff you can try: switch the brush categories to thumbnail and chose an outrageous preview jpg that stands out for your custom brushes. It helps. Painter sorts the brushes by alphabetical order when it boots, so with some clever folder renaming you can sort them in your preferred order. Don't forget you can also just remove the brush folders you don't need by dragging them out of the Painter Brushes folder. Cuts down on the clutter.

Something that makes a BIG difference to me now: Painter's right mouse click brings up a contextual menu for all the brushes in your current category. Program one of the Wacom's buttons to right click. Since you (and just about every Painter artist I know now) has stuck all their faves in one category so you have access to all of them in one stroke.

-Pat

[tilokani]

Is it just me, or do others notice there's a problem with the pressure sensitivity.

I mean I have to hold the stylus as light as a feather to achieve different pressure, anything more will result in something as if pressure sensitivity is turned off.
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[Lunatique]

tilokani--It makes a huge different to recalibrate your sensitivity in edit-->Brush Tracking.

Pat--yep, I got that underway--except HOLYSHIT that's a lot of custom brushes to recreate, setting by setting...and they add up to several HUGE-ASS categories. . .. Yoshio's brushes, Don't brushes, Feeb&Friend's brushes, my brushes, Jin's brushes, Fineart2 brushes...you get the idea. I can tell that you love the punishment though. I'm like that with my Maya custom shelves...

[Ra]

Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no new brushes, only new presets, right ?

[Pat]

[Jin]

[Rhomb]

I wondering the same as Jin. My own Painter 7 custom brushes seem to be working just fine in Painter 8 too so far.

Ville

[Tzan]

I'm still messing around with the demo version. (I really should just buy it) I just noticed that it wont load PNG images. Not a big deal but just a little annoying. PNG is a good format for Java art.

[DarkVVulf]

The new Photoshop UI and shortcut keys have me hooked, so now I think I can actually take the effort to finally switch over and start using Painter without giving myself a headache.

The pressure sensitivity seems to have a bug in it though, during one session it managed to get stuck on full pressure and I couldn't manage to snap it out of it without restarting the program.
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[Lunatique]

Oops, I forgot I had to actually copy the entire folders fro the brushes over. :p

Now we just need to custom palettes back, and get all the brush tweaking option for on the fly stuff back.

[digitaldecoy]

@ Pat:

I appreciate the time You spend to give me some enlightment on the subject. It�s not the case that I�m totally unfamiliar with color theory I just made the mistake to believe that painter is just simulating "real paint" and so I directly compared my real paint experience with the performance of the color mixer. I now understand that the color mixer indeed performs substractive color mixing BUT in the RGB color space and not in some "real paint simulating way" in which all the small variations of pigment paint would be simulated - that�s the single point I missed I guess. Thanks again for Your time.
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[ceenda]

Perhaps I'm just being thick here... but I can't find the option to change the background window color? You know? The colour that's behind your picture?

I used to set it to black in the Interface section of the Preferences in Painter 6... but it doesn't seem to be there any more. In fact, there isn't even an Interface dialogue any more.

Any clues?

[summer]

i agree painter 8 is great .. but on topic that the mixer inovative i thought i'd mention that deluxe paint on amiga had that in what? 1990 ?

=)

[Finer]

is it possible to resize the info window like photoshops navigator? or duplicate the document window?
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