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Steven Stahlberg
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 6:54 pm     Reply with quote
Should I drop this and move on? If not, any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:44 pm     Reply with quote
Very awesome. At the moment it looks heavily unfinished due to the rough painting and utter lack of textural reality. The other thing that really bugs me is that the directional lighting onto the underside of the umbrella appears wrong. Its as though the light source for that object is coming from the floor far ahead tilted upward rather than almost directly under.

The actual concept is fantastic and has incredible possibily. This could be extremely powerful if you are able to paint in the atmospheric conditions (such as humidity or fog or dust) and caustics from the bright light source at center. It might also look nice if there is a high detailed complex background being muffled by the distortions of lighting radiating from the foreground.

You are a brilliant artist and I only see great things coming from this. Keep up the great artwork.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 10:41 pm     Reply with quote
wonderful work!!


...your art is amazing Very Happy

if i may add: mm.. are her shins kinda long for a 'child' ? other than that i agree with the umbrella lighting crit... also, i love it cause its a very 'heartwarming' concept to me..!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:24 am     Reply with quote
this is amazing!
there are few things that are hard to understand, took me some time ti figure out that he;s holding the unbrella and not a burnt out match upside down. i still dont understand what's that blueish translucent pipe under the unbrella stick...
again, the ocncept is awesome!
this is great
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Steven Stahlberg
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 3:44 am     Reply with quote
Thanks, I decided to not drop it then... Smile I went whole hog and posed and lit a 3d character and a 3d umbrella for reference.
I think I've adressed most of the comments?

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 4:28 am     Reply with quote
hmm i kinda prefer the other look for the girl....looked more playful than this one....thats just me tho...
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:12 am     Reply with quote
Very nice concept! original for sure.

At first, I had problems figuring out what the big hand had to do with the composition, until I realized it was the monsters arm. It seemed like there was just a head at first, and that she was sitting on some kind of rock. Perhaps you should try and add some transcluency to the monsters body as well?

The light on her right leg looks a bit too intensive.. but I like the new girl better, she looks more focused on what she's doing.

Great stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:37 am     Reply with quote
WOW
this is better in many ways. the new girl has a more suiting exprssion.
the umbrella is more defined now.

the only thing that was better in the former image was the way the girl was wraping her legs around the monster's head. it gave a feel of her control over him. now it looks like she's unbalanced and about to fall. i liked the wraping of the legs around better.

this is great though..! definately.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:28 am     Reply with quote
Hi Steven!
It's a really cool indea you've got there.

I think I liked the first image the most. I liked the red tranlucent effect on the umbrella, to me the light clearly came from above not from beneth. The red / orage tone added more tense and contrast to the image due to it's overal cold buish tone.
Also the first image tells about a "litle girl" controling a great powerfull "Golem", a really trilling idea.
In the other image I understod it as she's healing him due to the red cross on the dress and she quite older which takes away from the coolness of here being so young yet having controll over some thing so powerfull. I like the first image / idea the most as I interpret them.
Also I forst didn't know if he was holding the cable thats behind his hand holding the umbrella. It's not a problem in the second image but I liked the way she wraped her legs around he's head in the first one.
I'd say go back to the first one and refine it and bring the other good stuff from the second one.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:33 am     Reply with quote
I like this much better. The lighting is more accurate and far more dramatic to the girl. The lighting is also more accurate on the umbrella, but the brighter less muted color of the original umbrella was a bit nicer.

This newer muted color just might work as well as the original bright color, but that depends entirely on atmospheric conditions and the background objects/textures. If you have noticable atmospheric conditions then it would look most correct for the colors to be more muted. If the background areas somehow provide a color negative to the umbrella then the muted color of the umbrella might shine forth stronger.

Keep in mind to never dismiss the secondary aspects of an image as they intensify the primary focal points of the overall composition. Perhaps you might even be able to create a linear focal shit across the image based upon how the background reflects or redirects the views eyes across the primary areas.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:14 pm     Reply with quote
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Perhaps you might even be able to create a linear focal shit across the image


Indeed.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 5:22 am     Reply with quote
Oh my goodness what a big difference a single letter can make. That word was supposed to be "shift".
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 7:18 am     Reply with quote
the first is much better though funny girlface expression ..

the second is too much "3d".. It steals much "magic" .. but I could to put monster hand and girl body in the first image. and preserve colours and lightning there..

edit1 .. it would even better if you did make the girl face a little longer in the second.. the body is damn sexy Twisted Evil
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