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Mobbis
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:24 pm     Reply with quote
What have you ppl done to get so darn good at drawing stuff?

Is it so that some ppl get born with this tallent.... i have been drawing people and animals for about 1 year and my drawings looks more like a blind man's drawings...

So the question is, is it just hard work and practise that have get you here?
Or should I as a ungifted human being just stop trying and start a new hobby like fishing or something...


btw.I really love this forum, and i am a big fan to most ppl here....
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:31 pm     Reply with quote
Well, I don't draw THAT well. Compared to you guys here, I suck, but compared to the average Joe my age, I do draw pretty good.

I've never taken any classes or anything. I guess I have it in me, but in order to be able to draw like the pros here, I'll have to practice and practice... Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:53 pm     Reply with quote
"genius is 1 per cent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration"

You can have a bit of talent and consider yourself good, but you really cant get far unless you practice your ass off. I mean, you can look at some of the drawings on my webpage and see a dramatic improvement over a timeframe of 3 month...because in those 3 months I actually made a serious attempt to learn...and I still havent put in enough time and effort to be within so much as a mile of most people on this board.
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AndyT
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:04 pm     Reply with quote
Ok if you tried to search for tallent I get that there were no results Wink

http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=30922

http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=30738

I think knowledge and experience play a more important role. Do you use reference? How old are you?
Have you read any books on drawing?
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Mobbis
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:21 am     Reply with quote
Most of the time i draw people around me and my dog =)

I am only 18 years old , so i maybee a bit young .

I have had limited success in finding books that shows technics and proportions.

As it seems here the only way a "ungifted" human like me can get any good is by pratice and pratice...

Thx for the answears btw
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IDrawGirls
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 8:18 am     Reply with quote
There are books like "Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain" with exercises. And there are basic things you should study.
For example perspective, composition, anatomy and so on.

www.fineart.sk/anat

The great artists here know a lot about that stuff. Practicing alone is not enough.
It's important that you know what you are doing.

Drawing people and animals sounds like a good idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:55 am     Reply with quote
Practice. Sometimes you have to keep plugging away until you have a breakthrough.

I've had a problem with figure drawing. When I was younger, I thought I had no "talent" for figure drawing. I was rather pathetic in the Life Drawing class I was taking. But I didn't give up. I kept humiliating myself by showing up to Life Drawing class and keeping at it. One day, BOOM! Something obviously fell into place, because I got better.

Same goes with pottery. Man, I sucked at that. Everyone else in class got it right away, I couldn't. I also did not give up. I wanted to make my own pottery, dammit! I made many, (MANY) pathetic pots. Finally I started to get better. And better. Never as good as some of my classmates, but I made up for that by making the most with what talent I had. I also learned to paint up my pottery (I can paint) which also compensated for my somewhat ordinary pottery (as in throwing on the potter's wheel) skills.

This, I think, is the secret. Sometimes you just have to keep struggling. And sometimes, you'll find that you are not going to be as "talented" as others around you, but you have your own unique way about you, and if you make the most of that, you will do just fine. Why, in my pottery, I have gotten in art galleries, and gotten awards! Not because I am a genius at pottery, but because I was able to "make the most" of what I had. Other obviously more able potters, who didn't feel as motivated, went on to something else and didn't do much with their pottery.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:33 pm     Reply with quote
I belive any determined person can learn to be a fairly good artist. I think the levels at which talent begins to make a difference are so high - like spooge level high -that a person can get a long way simply with determination.

It worked for me. Steady work, long hours, no giving up - that's all there is too it.

My biggest single breakthrough in artistic confidence was in first year art college - we did a pencil drawing that took me 80 hours of work in one crunch week.

Man did I learn a lot - mainly that the investment of work paid off! It was the best drawing I'd done in my entire life up to that point. I had no idea before doing it that I could draw so well! It was a real boost to the confidence and helped me get through the crappy early stages in many paintings since.

If you really want to do this, you have to stick with it and put in the time. It is absolutely no different from lifting weights, practicing scales or studying a language - time, time, time.


~mth
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:18 pm     Reply with quote
I think a lot of people mistake talent for something else, in regards to the way the brain works. People who have "talent" are usually people who's brain interprets visual messages better than others. These people usually have a natural eye for color composition, page layout etc. Most of those types of people make natural artists because their brains are very visually oriented, but with practice and a good teacher, anyone can learn those basic design concepts and learn how to use them effectively. Then with plenty of practice, most people can learn to "do" art in one form or another. However, I think a lot of times that drive to do so gets squelched and people give up.
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