[Nirox]

hi everyone! =)

i made this image in photoshop...
im not very good but im learning...
and i hope people comment on how i could improve myself,
so i can keep on learning!

thanks in advance!

-Jorge

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[mekun]

the face looks fine if i compare with the rest.
the butterfly wings looks just a seperate layer, it dosnt realy merge with the human body.
the clothes looks realy blured and
uff the arm anf face is ok but it looks like you used a 3d human model and tried to add clothes, and butterflywings.
and it looks male but it shall be a female or not ?

[Capt. Fred]

loooonnnnngg arm

Cool though,

[Nirox]

[Eorand]

Hi, just a short comment.

I would sharpen the backlight boundaries.
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[tayete]

For some reason it reminds me of POSER figures...
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[dr . bang]

POSER FACE
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[Nirox]

yah I wanted to explain some things and also
let people know why I did such things (like the dress blur)

and I guess your accusing me of using poser?
I wish I had... but as you can plainly see
my figure is very badly done
if I had used poser you can be sure that this image would have been perfect


im trying to learn how to become a good painter
and I dont think I would be a good painter using poser

also.. if I had used poser
I would have mentioned so.. im not a "poser"
you can check out my other images at www.zengfx.com
they might not be great...
but im proud to say I did them all in photoshop/3dmax
and they are all 100% original
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[Soak]

you wanted crit u got it.If you cant accept crit ur a bad artist

[Nirox]

its not that I cant accept criticism...
if I couldn't accept people ripping apart my image
I wouldn't post it in the 1st place...

im sorry if my reply sounded....negative?
im only trying to explain why I did such things
and can assure you that im not being negative at all and
I love having people comment on images I worked on

also I find having an image "ripped" apart
is what I want..

that's the only way I can see what others see
and make myself better


but on the other hand...whenever I criticize an image..
I make a point to be positive and helpful like...
"the blank of your image is not right...I suggest you ..blah blah blah"
so not only do I tell them what's wrong...
but suggest 1 way of fixing or dealing with that issue for next time...
and maybe showing them something new...

that's all I meant when I said...

[Drew]

It's good that you help people out with suggestions, but part of your "job" as an artist is to accept critcism and figure out how to fix it yourself. If you rely on other people to tell you "The Way" you'll have a hard time progressing. There is no "Way", there is just your interpretation of an idea. How you choose to express it is up to you.

Having said that...

Comment:
""the clothes looks really blured"

Your reply: "the clothes looks the way they do because the dress is
thin and transparent...and I wanted the dress to ... glow in the moon light
i dont know if I did it correctly... I just made it look good.. the way I thought it was done.."

So, think about it. What you wanted was a thin, transparent dress with the moon behind it. What you ended up with was a blurry dress. Why is that? Look up some reference of sheer dresses on models. What about them is different than what you've done? I'll bet that they have more wrinkles in them than what you've drawn. Little wrinkles make fabric look thin. Big or no wrinkles make fabric look stiff. Does the cloth wrap around the model like spandex, or fall on the curves of the woman? Reference is vital.

Now look at the other comments you were given. How can you fix what they've noted as broken?


{edit: typo}

[Soak]

With your art you have to represent ur thoughts.You cant explain your work to other people,you have to try to create art that is understood by a non artist instantly.Thats difficult though.Youse more reference,shade more detailed,do texture,do highlight your material

[Loxley]

[Nirox]

[acidcrys]

overall, it is pretty nicely done so far.. I mean its not horrible/crap like someone else mentioned.

I would suggest more difference in highlights/shadows- although she is flying/floating in the night sky.. there would still be a considerably noticeable difference between hightlights and shadows.. to show certain features of her body and the dress. The dress especially, I would suggest some nice folds/wrinkles. to suggest a sort of flowing feel to it.. Her right arm, as mentioned before, is also a bit long.. but that can be easily fixed seeing as you did well with the other arm. I think the body itself looks really good.. especially the hands - i like how they are darkened with shadow.. the dress is really all that doesnt look real at all.. especially the lace(?) white ruffles on the collar and sleeve areas.. I'm almost certain more highlights/shadows would fix that.. as well as with the feet.

Good luck.. and keep working at it.
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[ChiaNi]

you are lucky to have all these good critisims. So many picture post here receive 0 commend.

All I read here are good and helpful critisims. If not because your replay have thorn both other. People will not suggest you how to accept critisims.

Ofcouse if you post a picture like this will make good artist eye tell you what wrong with when they have time. Not critisim rip your picture apart. you are the one rip good critisims apart.


Your art with your atitute have long way to become good painter.
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[ChiaNi]

A good picture should tell story it self without artist explain what he or she try to do.

Moon light is moon light. you didn't show how the body under the moom light. You didn't show how the transparent fablic around the body.

good atitute should thankful what other point out the wrong and change it. post the change again.

Not rip people critisim apart to explain what you try to do and what you think is look good to youself. why this and why that....what you think and done are realy make your picture look wrong. That bottom line.
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[AndyT]

Something about faking stuff (it doesn't just mean you're being creative)
http://www.fineart.sk/loomis/page204.gif
http://www.fineart.sk/loomis/page205.gif
http://www.fineart.sk/loomis/page206.jpg

By the way ... the comment you wrote in that shiny color sounds way to harsh. Of course all your comments that you can accept c&c sound ridiculous. You remind me of some guy that posted here as 'lilsis' ... he too insulted sijun members who wanted to help out.
Maybe you agree after rereading it?

If you want to get better start with easier subjects. You want that fairy to look right? You are wasting your time!

About the poser accusation ... you know Robcamp? He used a poser figure as reference. You couldn't tell from the result and nobody accused him of cheating. What people don't like about yours is that it looks wrong and lifeless.

If you don't ever want to use ref for art on your webpage at least do some studies that you don't post here.

I know the urge to post pictures here. Post stuff you don't want c&c for in the themed threads. So people can hopefully see you improve.

Learn the basics before you ask for c&c. Read tutorials and maybe buy books.

Many artists had a hard time being accepted here as newbies. Me included (wait ... I'm not an artist). But not because people here are intolerant.
It's because they don't know how this place works ... because they don't do their homework.

(My English sucks)
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