[tyron]

damn... my art teacher has gotten me to think more seriously..
he tells me that to be a good artist you have to have a good idea-world (that's what he calls it... he means that you have to have alots of good ideas and thoughts in your head to be able to succeed as an artist)
i guess he is right... but at the moment i have no idea what to draw.
i just do alots of studies.
how do you do it? i'm asking everyone here who has an oppinion.
and how do you get all the time to practice?
i mean, i've got a girlfriend and a somewhat living social life... i don't have time to draw all the time..
having a relationship seems to take alot of my thinking so i don't come up with many new fun projects...
how do you all manage?
do i have to dump my girlfriend, isolate me in my studio and just work till i'm exhausted? (atleast i would get something done)

tell me.. sorry for all the rants.. i feel depressed.

[Max]

there was a thread like this some time ago and If I rmember right Chile told us about this technique:


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One method of the creative process as it relates to Abstract work is to produce as many marks as you can on seperate pages while contemplating whatever the inspiration is.

Then, after about 30-50 seperate pages, go through and find the ones you like. After this, you reproduce the marks you like on another 30 or so pages with varying colours.

Then, you take the top 2 or 3 marks most true to the inspiration/idea/concept and produce your final piece from them.

All through this method, you work as fast as you can while you try to stay within the realm of your purpose.

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I fell the same often. School is stealing my time.....
Well, Good Luck

[tyron]

hmm... thats a strange idea...
seems pretty intresting though.

but ti doesn't really answer my question (read topic)

[edraket]

your post is not very clear.
Do you want to know whether or not to give up on your life te become a good artist? Or do you want to know how to get a better "idea world", in other words..to become creative?

[oDD]

youve got social life ? got girlfriend? youre DEPRESEd ?


say WHAT?

[edit]anyway i think that depression and women are two biggest sorces of inspiration[/edit]
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[Jin]

Ask your girlfriend to model for you, and explain what you're doing/what you've done. Get her interested. Maybe teach her to draw too.

She may be flattered to be asked and she may enjoy drawing too.

If you really look, and really think, your relationship with your girlfriend and the things you do together, should give you tons of inspiration.

Try doing some brainstorming with your girlfriend.. to get some ideas going.

TIP: Life goes with you wherever you go. If you don't take good care of it (good care of your internal self and relationships with everyone around you), you won't be a "success" no matter how well you learn to create art and how much money you earn.

Good luck!

[Frost]

[Jezebel]

I dunno... I think its kind of silly to assume that just because you're an artist you will have no social life. You can do whatever you want, there are no rules.

(mind you this is coming from someone that devotes little to no time for art OR social acitivites )
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[Ragnarok]

Well, in my little opinion without experience, I think that to produce great art you need to have lived. Around 30-40 you will have enough experiences to do something really moving usually, but if you start painting then, you won't have the techniques and skills. So do studies, have a life to live and you'll find inspiration =)
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[tyron]

what i meant for those who didn't understand is that social relations and other not so important stuff is taking the time i would want for my art studies.

those are some very good answers... i feel much better.
i agree with you frost, it seems good to schedule your day. i'm thinking about stop watching tv.. it takes sooo much time of the week. it'll be very hard though.

[Jin]

I'll bet I'm one you think doesn't understand. I do, really. I've not only lived a long time, through the stages you're living through, but I've watch my kids and grandkids do it too.. and my friends.

At any given moment, we have to choose what things are important to us (set priorities). Otherwise, the result is chaos and a whole lot of anxiety and often disappointment.

As others have said, it helps to do some "time management" (I hate that corporate world expression!). When I find myself overwhelmed having taken on more than I can handle and not getting things done that I want to get done (long term or short term goals), the best thing is for me to sit down and write a list of important things. Then assign a priority to each of them.

Sometimes I get away from that list for a few days, then take another look. If my list is impossible, I begin paring it down to something manageable. Then I schedulel time for each thing and try to stick to the schedule.

This is ideal, and it's not something I do unless pushed into a corner. My natural state is to take on too much and wear myself out.. spreading myself to thin to do anything as well as I could with a little discipline.

Discipline! That's a key word for a balanced life.

After you figure out what's important to you, dump the things that are not important (TV, for instance can be enjoyable but doesn't have to consume one's life). Friends, family, and even a girlfriend can be important for a balanced life.

People do much better when their lives are balanced. Somehow, it gives us more energy, clarity of thought, freedom to be creative.


OK.. that's enough blabbering. I'll shut up now.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

[tyron]

no jin, i found your comment useful.

i hate the word discipline... i had this filosofy that everything will sort it self out.. just relax and have fun instead of worrying..
maybe some discipline is what i need...
i'm definitly gonna work on that.
when i think of it, discipline doesn't seem so dangerous when it's about good things.


(buah, i've got a terrible headache and a cold)

[Drew]

"i hate the word discipline... i had this filosofy that everything will sort it self out.. just relax and have fun instead of worrying.. "

Usually I would abstain from making an inflammatory comment, but that is the most retarded philosophy I've ever heard. Are you planning on eventually living on the street and getting your meals whenever they happen to be right in front of you? Good luck.

Edit:Spellcheck is good.

[tyron]

hehe... i know.. it is a totally retarded filosofy
i'm not defending it...
it was just me and a couple of friends who where thinking like that. everything did sort itself out too... dunno why... luck perhaps.. we didn't care.

[Drunken Monkey]

Jin: thanks for posting that. I glanced at this thread a few times as it developed because it looked interesting. You've just triggered an enlightenment regarding certain something in my life. Thank you.

[Matthew]

Yin and Yang.
I have choosen Yang for the moment and will therefore only paint.

[Mitz]

Hey Jin, I really liked your little blaab..honestly it really inspired me to get my crap together.. i guess coming from someone with experience just hit me.. i've been telling myself the same thing but i guess it didn't sink in.
thanks

[henrik]

There is nothing more important than relationships. Art always comes second.
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[Jin]

tyron

I hated the word "discipline" until I thought about it for a while and realized I'd been associating it with punishment.

It's not that at all. It's guiding yourself (or when we were kids, having our parents and other authorities guide us). When we "grow up" (not sure I have yet), we have to be our own parents, sometimes gentle and understanding, sometimes using tough love.

One of the ways our parents (if they were really good ones) and other authorities guided us was to let us experience the consequences of our choices and our actions.

Now we can do the same thing. When we notice things aren't going too well, we can stop and think for a while about which of our choices and actions led up to these consequences. With that knowledge, we're free to make better choices and do more productive and loving things for ourselves.

Dr. Monkey

That's great to hear. Thanks!

Mitz

It usually helps to hear what others think when we're stuck. I certainly need that feedback now and then.

I'm glad living this long is useful to someone besides me.

Happy Living, guys!

[bM]

Live a happy life or succeed?
I got "burned out" 2001, since then i've choosen to live life.
I'm lucky so i can make a living on working 2-3 hours day.
And if i work fulltime i can become very successful, i know that
i can get even bigger with emplyees and everything. but honestly
i dont want to, not yet. But sometimes you got to "dicipline" yourself.
For instance, i have long been up all night and gotten up around 11.00-12.00 the next day. Now i go up 08.00, feels good, nice somehow.

Next month i have 2800$ in taxes to pay so now i work like 8-10 hours
everyday. And it's ok. But why can't i work normal hours every month..
Hard to explain..

I love life, i prefer doing art if i can, i have no need for work work work.
I work as much as i need, then live life.

I'm happy now, got engaged 27/december 2002 to a beautiful girl called Maria... And im thinking on learning oil painting the old way.. I can take the morning off to follow my fiance to shop and be with her.. It's great.

But it can also be a hard prize to pay..
I lie sleepless many hours, worrying about work.. it's all in the head.


I love to work.. and im finaly learning to "dicipline" myself, although
Maria set things in a new perspective yet again


DONT GET BURNED OUT, IT SUCKS ASS
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[tyron]

hehe, that's right man.. it's all in the head.. thanks for sharing
i wonder what you work with..

and my lips are numb from alcohol.. good thing i don't need to talk to you

[bM]

haha, i want to booze too
But its 03.15 and i got to work because i drew all night yesterday.
hehe.

i work as computer consultant, web designer and programmer.


Atm im programming the administration script for a webpage.
Deadline this month:

Tip a friend script, 2 web designs and programming, adminscript for both and databases. Newsletter script and design, 2 computers to fix. One old to buy RAM and install a network card so that i can make backup of existing stuff, then format and reinstall everything...
ahh, lots and lots more . .
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- Nicklas Forsberg a.k.a bM
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[tyron]

sounds pretty damn boring if you ask me i hate computers.. so dead..
buah.... i gotta sleep keep it up whatever you do ciao.